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09 Nov 2012, 10:54 pm

I'm starting to believe I have schizophrenia instead (or in addition) to Asperger's. It all started when I smoked weed at college. I had a hallucination and had something similar to a near death experience. I communicated with God and had an out of the body experience. I then had psychosis for a week. It then went away. Then a couple of weeks later it came back real bad for a week. Then it calmed down significantly and then stayed steady for about a year and a half. I've had delusions, paranoia, depersonalization, derealization, depression, and anxiety. I've been in inpatient 3 times and outpatient 4 times. I've never been diagnosed with schizophrenia, although one doctor was leaning towards it but wanted to wait a couple of months to see how it developed. I've been diagnosed with Asperger's by like 5 doctors. I feel like my IQ has dropped since 2010 by like 20 points. For 1.5 years I sincerely believed space didn't exist (not outerspace), we lived in the matrix/computer simulation, and that we aren't real, it's all an illusion. I believe I developed these ideas due to derealization or "delirium". I don't know WTF it is called but it is scary as s**t! It's worse than death. You're on another planet and it feels like you're a zombie, in a dream, a robot, or in a coma. I think it was something beyond derealization because it was so intense.

Initially, no medication worked for me. I was on Risperdal then Haldol. The Risperdalgot rid of the depersonalization but gave me constant/acute/chronic derealization. Before the medication I was sometimes able to snap out of it. Not on the Risperdal. The nice thing about Risperdal is that it substantially increased my intelligence. I recently tried Abilify which is doing the trick. I am 100 times better. I have no derealization or depersonalization in a sense. Sometimes I question if things are real. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm real. But things look real to me. The downside is I can't concentrate anymore. I used to be able to concentrate for hours, days, or weeks but now I can only concentrate for at most 1-2 hours. As a college student this is unacceptable and I'm thinking about going off my meds. But I know there's a chance I'll be psychotic again. I mean, I still am delusional even being on 20 mg of a anti-schizophrenic medication. I also feel the medications cause me to lose my creativity. But I do feel like Abilify and the anti- depressant is helping with my memory and intelligence. I know it's stupid to not take meds, but this is how I feel.

So how do I tell if I have schizophrenia? My doctors say I have the negative symptoms but not the positive symptoms. I haven't told them I have heard and music voices while laying down in bed falling asleep. This was also the case when I smoked marijuana last. I also think that the derealization should be considered a hallucination because I was able to see space weirdly. I also see lights, colors, and little objects moving around when I look up in the sky (not floaters, could be a neurological problem), though I'm 100% confident I don't have synesthesia.

I'm pretty smart. I'm a math major. I'm thinking about being an actuary or getting a phd. I f****d up 3 classes I got c's in them. But this was at a time when my mental capacity was diminishing and when I was probably psychotic.

Thanks for reading.


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10 Nov 2012, 1:53 am

Were the music and voices only while you were falling asleep?
If they were, they could have just been hypnagogic hallucinations, which are pretty common and not a sign of psychosis.


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10 Nov 2012, 4:18 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Were the music and voices only while you were falling asleep?
If they were, they could have just been hypnagogic hallucinations, which are pretty common and not a sign of psychosis.


Yes. That's what I thought.


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10 Nov 2012, 8:54 am

Did you have any autistic symptoms in childhood, or are all of these sensory experiences new to you (since experimenting with drugs)?



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10 Nov 2012, 11:54 am

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Did you have any autistic symptoms in childhood, or are all of these sensory experiences new to you (since experimenting with drugs)?


I had them since childhood.


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10 Nov 2012, 5:05 pm

You could have schizophrenia AND aspergers.
But you should tell to your doctors about your hallucinations. Symptoms of schizophrenia can be ameliorated if it is treated on time.
Don't take pills and drugs in the same time, it will mess up your brain.


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10 Nov 2012, 10:48 pm

Thnx for sharing your experience, quite cool to know I'm not the only one with a very similar status or symptoms :)

At first I thought the same ("I have schiz") but when hallucinations got worse and quite bizarre and creepy I went to my shrink and diagnosed Complex Partial Seizures (not sure if I'm correct with translation, sorry), now I suspect these seizures are consequence of AS

I have an eerie medication as well, and tried many after allergies and all kind of side effects (gained weight or loss, hair loss, and severe mood and sleep disorders), but I think there's no choice because now I'm kind of paranoid to increase memory loss and dyslexia...
My advice (maybe not a good one) is to keep med treatment and take it or establish your own dose (never overdose) according your mood

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11 Nov 2012, 12:03 am

bizboy1 wrote:
Noetic wrote:
Did you have any autistic symptoms in childhood, or are all of these sensory experiences new to you (since experimenting with drugs)?


I had them since childhood.


Counselors and therapists, thought I had aspergers when I was a kid. It wasn't until I was 22 that I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And it wasn't until I was 23 that I was re-diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder. I used to count constantly, I was excellent with numbers, legendary at flash cards.

Answering these questions will give me a pretty good indication of your diagnosis.

What are your plans?

How old are you?

Do you have friends or a girlfriend?

How often do you leave the house?



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11 Nov 2012, 9:12 am

AnotherKind wrote:
Don't take pills and drugs in the same time, it will mess up your brain.


Wow, I had no clue... pills are a type of fruit or something?!

@bizboy1, you say the way you see space should be considered a hallucination. By 'see', do you mean perceive? Because those kind of perceptions would be delusions (although they could be metaphysical ruminations too!)... hallucinations are technically sensory experiences. Derealization is very much a perceptual issue too.



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11 Nov 2012, 9:38 am

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Wow, I had no clue... pills are a type of fruit or something?!

No psychiatric medication is not a kind of fruit and should be taken seriously. But if you want to make a salad of drugs to f**k up your brain is your own business.
I know someone who made this combination and ended up schizophrenic.


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11 Nov 2012, 9:40 pm

wcoltd wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
Noetic wrote:
Did you have any autistic symptoms in childhood, or are all of these sensory experiences new to you (since experimenting with drugs)?


I had them since childhood.


Counselors and therapists, thought I had aspergers when I was a kid. It wasn't until I was 22 that I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And it wasn't until I was 23 that I was re-diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder. I used to count constantly, I was excellent with numbers, legendary at flash cards.

Answering these questions will give me a pretty good indication of your diagnosis.

What are your plans?

Graduate college with a math degree and then be an actuary.

How old are you?

23

Do you have friends or a girlfriend?

I have friends. Never had a girlfriend.

How often do you leave the house?
I try to leave the house everyday even if that means just getting a soda.


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11 Nov 2012, 9:43 pm

Mootoo wrote:
AnotherKind wrote:
Don't take pills and drugs in the same time, it will mess up your brain.


Wow, I had no clue... pills are a type of fruit or something?!

@bizboy1, you say the way you see space should be considered a hallucination. By 'see', do you mean perceive? Because those kind of perceptions would be delusions (although they could be metaphysical ruminations too!)... hallucinations are technically sensory experiences. Derealization is very much a perceptual issue too.



I think I saw space. I also saw things flat


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12 Nov 2012, 12:38 am

bizboy1 wrote:
I'm starting to believe I have schizophrenia instead (or in addition) to Asperger's. It all started when I smoked weed at college. I had a hallucination and had something similar to a near death experience. I communicated with God and had an out of the body experience. I then had psychosis for a week. It then went away. Then a couple of weeks later it came back real bad for a week. Then it calmed down significantly and then stayed steady for about a year and a half. I've had delusions, paranoia, depersonalization, derealization, depression, and anxiety. I've been in inpatient 3 times and outpatient 4 times. I've never been diagnosed with schizophrenia, although one doctor was leaning towards it but wanted to wait a couple of months to see how it developed. I've been diagnosed with Asperger's by like 5 doctors. I feel like my IQ has dropped since 2010 by like 20 points. For 1.5 years I sincerely believed space didn't exist (not outerspace), we lived in the matrix/computer simulation, and that we aren't real, it's all an illusion. I believe I developed these ideas due to derealization or "delirium". I don't know WTF it is called but it is scary as sh**! It's worse than death. You're on another planet and it feels like you're a zombie, in a dream, a robot, or in a coma. I think it was something beyond derealization because it was so intense.

Initially, no medication worked for me. I was on Risperdal then Haldol. The Risperdalgot rid of the depersonalization but gave me constant/acute/chronic derealization. Before the medication I was sometimes able to snap out of it. Not on the Risperdal. The nice thing about Risperdal is that it substantially increased my intelligence. I recently tried Abilify which is doing the trick. I am 100 times better. I have no derealization or depersonalization in a sense. Sometimes I question if things are real. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm real. But things look real to me. The downside is I can't concentrate anymore. I used to be able to concentrate for hours, days, or weeks but now I can only concentrate for at most 1-2 hours. As a college student this is unacceptable and I'm thinking about going off my meds. But I know there's a chance I'll be psychotic again. I mean, I still am delusional even being on 20 mg of a anti-schizophrenic medication. I also feel the medications cause me to lose my creativity. But I do feel like Abilify and the anti- depressant is helping with my memory and intelligence. I know it's stupid to not take meds, but this is how I feel.

So how do I tell if I have schizophrenia? My doctors say I have the negative symptoms but not the positive symptoms. I haven't told them I have heard and music voices while laying down in bed falling asleep. This was also the case when I smoked marijuana last. I also think that the derealization should be considered a hallucination because I was able to see space weirdly. I also see lights, colors, and little objects moving around when I look up in the sky (not floaters, could be a neurological problem), though I'm 100% confident I don't have synesthesia.

I'm pretty smart. I'm a math major. I'm thinking about being an actuary or getting a phd. I f**** up 3 classes I got c's in them. But this was at a time when my mental capacity was diminishing and when I was probably psychotic.

Thanks for reading.


Whatever the diagnosis, this is bloody serious. Time to focus on yourself first. There will be time for your academic career later, once you've recovered. Don't smoke any more pot. Good luck.



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16 Nov 2012, 4:18 pm

Maybe the weed was laced with PCP :)


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