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14 Jun 2014, 7:15 am

First, let me start out by saying that I do NOT think AS/HFA, etc. is the same as a psychopath or implying that because you have AS/HFA you are a psychopath. I have met many people that have AS and there is no doubt that they don't have an ounce of psychopath behaviors.

With that said, I myself am self-diagnosed AS/HFA from years of experience with my kiddo, my school history, other?no doubt in my mind. I am married to someone whom I think is actually a psychopath. I am worried sick as we have a son together and I want to ensure my son's safety if/when I leave. If I have to put up with the psychopath until my son is an adult in order to avoid shared custody, etc., then I will do that. Actually, it has been some years that I have known something is definitely off and I do believe that every single sign is there.

Is anyone here diagnosed as a psychopath? I don't know if this is even worth me asking, as from what I see of my husband, he doesn't ever tell the truth, but I thought I'd try anyway. What should I watch for? What makes you tick? What sends you over the edge?



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15 Jun 2014, 5:46 am

Psychopathy has been one of my special interests :-) Personally I think ASD and pyschopathy cannot be co-morbid as some of the characteristics of psychopathy are impossible/extremely difficult to aspies/autists to display (eg being manipulative, pathological liars, superficially charming and fearless). Also given the over-riding trait of a psychopath is having no empathy for anyone (not even feeling true love for professed loved ones), the chances of a genuine psychopath reading your comment and wanting to help are slim to none I'd say. And as you say, given they're pathological liars they are very unlikely to tell you the truth!

The most influential researcher and father of pyschopathy is Dr Robert Hare, who wrote a book "without conscience" explaining in depth about psychopaths. It might be your best bet to read that book - or one by a similarly experienced author - to see if your husband fits the bill and if he does, to learn more about how his mind works. Kent Kiehl is also highly respected.

I'm really sorry for the suffering you're evidently going through :(



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15 Jun 2014, 7:37 am

KateCoco thanks much for your reply. Funny that after I wrote my question, I thought "they lie, is someone really going to answer?" lol ugh I am laughing because I am tired of crying actually, not because this issue is even remotely funny. People tell me they can't imagine how stressful it must be to deal with my autistic kiddo?they think my high level of stress is because of my son?nothing could be further from the truth. My incredibly high level of stress comes directly from what I believe to be my psychopath husband? :-(

Thanks for the information. I read a little bit about it and have been for a couple of years. The more I read, the more I see it. The further I distance myself emotionally from him, the more I can see clearly the signs were there all along. I even remember his sister and others in his family telling me "he had no feelings" at the very beginning?of course, stupid me, he cried once and I thought they were all wrong. I now look back and think "wow, they were right and were trying to warn me". Sadly, I didn't believe them since they were all very jealous of my income/standard of living, etc. and I thought they were just trying to tear us apart. :-( Now I wish I wasn't so stubborn and had allowed it.



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15 Jun 2014, 8:08 am

Actually, I know of a psychopath who might be willing to give you advice. He has a blog called Psychopathic Writings. He often answers emailed questions about psychopathy there, so if you email him you might get some good advice.

Just make sure not to give him identifying information, just in case. I doubt he'd do anything with it, but you never know with psychopaths.



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15 Jun 2014, 7:54 pm

whatamess wrote:
KateCoco thanks much for your reply. Funny that after I wrote my question, I thought "they lie, is someone really going to answer?" lol ugh I am laughing because I am tired of crying actually, not because this issue is even remotely funny. People tell me they can't imagine how stressful it must be to deal with my autistic kiddo?they think my high level of stress is because of my son?nothing could be further from the truth. My incredibly high level of stress comes directly from what I believe to be my psychopath husband? :-(

Thanks for the information. I read a little bit about it and have been for a couple of years. The more I read, the more I see it. The further I distance myself emotionally from him, the more I can see clearly the signs were there all along. I even remember his sister and others in his family telling me "he had no feelings" at the very beginning?of course, stupid me, he cried once and I thought they were all wrong. I now look back and think "wow, they were right and were trying to warn me". Sadly, I didn't believe them since they were all very jealous of my income/standard of living, etc. and I thought they were just trying to tear us apart. :-( Now I wish I wasn't so stubborn and had allowed it.


I have known several psychopaths VERY well............

RUN and RUN NOW!! !! !! !

everyday will build up more and more pain until you leave.
they are irredeemable....they cannot and will not EVER change.
breakdown your love for him until there is nothing left.
he is manipulating you.
he is using you.
you and your child ARE in danger.

how deep does the manipulation go?
how much of it do you NOT see?
analyze every excuse you make to stay....none of those reasons are worth the pain that will inevitably continue to come.
let go of any hope that you can make the best of it.

GIVE YOURSELF PERMISSION TO LEAVE
you made a small mistake when this all started....but you and your child are worth saving!
forgive yourself and escape

Be well.
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21 Jun 2014, 7:14 am

I have diagnosed Autism and OCD.

I haven't been diagnosed as a psychopath, but I do have psychopathic tendencies...no emotion....no remorse...no empathy....I have a total lack of all three.

I tend to have a 'break' every couple of months for a few days...during this time, I become manipulative, destructive, violent, abusive and I could kill.

I seclude myself and get locked in my room during this time....like a freaking warewolf.



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21 Jun 2014, 4:09 pm

I would say that it would be an extremely exceptional case if an aspie were to be diagnosed with full blown psycopathy and the PL-CR corroborates my opinion. It is possible for an aspie to have shallow affect violent tendencies and to be motivated by predatory drives, but the violent proclivity is actually very rare amongst the autistic population.

The capacity to manipulate others is also not really possible with autistics... maybe those with PDD-NOS might have enough cognitive empathy to pull it off sometimes but I doubt it.

The only similarity is an empathy deficit and even then the autistic probably only has a cognitive not an affective deficit.


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25 Feb 2019, 12:15 am

i try to act normal outside, and role play as a psychopath, then deep down im just an awkward autistic gay child..


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26 Feb 2019, 4:50 am

whatamess, please make an escape plan for you and your child.
the longer you stay with the psychopath the more damage he will do, until you are broken, if not on the outside then in spirit.



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26 Feb 2019, 7:34 pm

I hope Whatamess still isn't in such a mess 4 1/2 years later......