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Leola
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10 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

My husband has remarked that sometimes people seem to pass on traits to their children in a kind of "distilled" way -- for example, the child having two or three traits of the mother or father, but to an extreme that the mother or father didn't have, and lacking other qualities.



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10 Apr 2013, 11:31 am

nick007 wrote:
Raziel wrote:
nick007 wrote:
Leola wrote:
redrobin62 wrote:
Some people with autism do have repetitive thoughts and behaviours that resemble OCD. The thing is, OCD is really an anxiety issue. With autism, the repetitive behaviours are built-in and not related to anxiety. Can someone with autism have OCD? Yes, but being able to differentiate between what behavior is being induced by anxiety and what is built-in would require a deep familiarity with the afflicted person.


That makes sense.

In wondering if OCD could be part of autism, I forgot about the very important anxiety element. There's a big difference between organizing things and behaving ritualistically out of fear and anxiety, versus doing it out of preference. Thank you for pointing that out.

I think Aspies & autistics in general can be prone to developing OCD due to anxiety being brought on because of the issues we face with our Aspie,auti uniqueness. I have OCD & I think was brought on by problems I faced because of my Aspieness & other things I had.


Yes, autistics are prone of developing OCD. But my experience is, that people having certain disorders also interprete it in people who don't have it.
When I like to eat every morning the same and it makes me happy and I freak when someone doesn't let me. That's a typical routine and an autism thing. I DON'T eat it, because of anxiety NO, I eat it, because I LIKE that everything is the same.
I also have some "pure O" thoughts, but they feel different. There there is the pressure and the anxiety level, with my autistic routines there is not and of course autism can also exist without OCD.
When people aren't aware of autism/Aspergers they can look to other disorders to explain things including OCD. Lots of sites that mention basic info about AS mention cataloging information & preferring order which ounds like OCD written like that. The routine things that's part of AS/autism sometimes gets mistaken for Obsessive Compulsive Personality. The psychs I saw had the wrong idea about Aspergers; sense it's on autism spectrum they thought it was a less sever from of classic autism so they quickly ruled it out in me due to me communicating too well & seeming too intelligent to have anything on the autism spectrum so they looked for other disorders to explain things including OCD & OCPD. I do have some OCPD things but I believe it's just how my AS & sometimes anxiety manifest itself. Interesting side note is that me & my mom think my dad could have OCPD because he has a lot of the symptoms(picky about how things are done even when he's not doing them, ask my mom for an opinion & then criticizes why it's wrong, he has to have his music on & won't consider/or care that me & mom don't want to hear it) but he doesn't have alot of AS traits. Perhaps my Aspergers is made up of various things including OCD & OCPD instead of being completely separate independent disorder.


My theory is, that because many disorders share genes, noone really has "pure autism" or "pure schizophrenia" or whatever, but instead many traits that's shared by other disorders, so that you can't really distinguish them and that you are just told that your behaviour is part of this disorder, because you have more traits of lets say autism instead of OCPD.


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21 Apr 2013, 5:05 pm

nick007 wrote:
[When people aren't aware of autism/Aspergers they can look to other disorders to explain things including OCD. Lots of sites that mention basic info about AS mention cataloging information & preferring order which ounds like OCD written like that. The routine things that's part of AS/autism sometimes gets mistaken for Obsessive Compulsive Personality. The psychs I saw had the wrong idea about Aspergers; sense it's on autism spectrum they thought it was a less sever from of classic autism so they quickly ruled it out in me due to me communicating too well & seeming too intelligent to have anything on the autism spectrum so they looked for other disorders to explain things including OCD & OCPD. I do have some OCPD things but I believe it's just how my AS & sometimes anxiety manifest itself. Interesting side note is that me & my mom think my dad could have OCPD because he has a lot of the symptoms(picky about how things are done even when he's not doing them, ask my mom for an opinion & then criticizes why it's wrong, he has to have his music on & won't consider/or care that me & mom don't want to hear it) but he doesn't have alot of AS traits. Perhaps my Aspergers is made up of various things including OCD & OCPD instead of being completely separate independent disorder.
Yes, I've found this to be true of me too. The neurologist I saw, when I was around 3 yrs. old, thought that I probally had Tourette Syndrome, which is a part of the obsessive compulsive spectrum. But OCD is not a part of the autistic spectrum, and has it's own spectrum. Though, with that being said, the two spectrums are not mutually exclusive, and one can be on both simultaneously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditions_comorbid_to_autism_spectrum_disorders#Obsessive-compulsive_disorder



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24 Apr 2013, 12:23 am

My neurologist told me that it is.



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24 Apr 2013, 3:03 am

The OCD spectrum has a huge overlapp into the autistic spectrum.
So I find it makes sence to say that those are two different spectrums, but the overlapp is huge.

I know many autistics with OCD and OCPD symptoms.


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