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24 Dec 2013, 12:14 am

Raziel wrote:
I don't have BDD, but I'm Transgender and I guess there are many similarities, but also differences...


So, you have both of these? Have you transitioned? ftm?



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24 Dec 2013, 1:03 am

abcde wrote:
Raziel wrote:
I don't have BDD, but I'm Transgender and I guess there are many similarities, but also differences...


So, you have both of these? Have you transitioned? ftm?



I do not have both of these. I wrote. "I don't have BDD" and yes I have tranditioned.
I just mentioned that there are similarities, but also differences between those two.


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29 Dec 2013, 2:06 pm

I am still struggling to find my voice on WrongPlanet, but I logged in, noticed this thread and thought I should at least raise my virtual hand as a fellow sufferer.

I have had BDD – diagnosed – for at least a decade and it is now fair to say my case is quite severe. It started at university and has deteriorated steadily since. My obsessions are mostly my facial aesthetics, but I also find myself hating my body shape as well to a lesser degree.

The autism specialists I saw at a London behavioural genetics department did suggest that BDD is not atypical for those on the spectrum. That is not to say it is common, but simply that autistic minds are more prone to the perfectionism and detail obsession that can, when focussed on appearance, develop into BDD.

I also read an interesting article that speculated that autistic brains may be more susceptible to BDD as rather than appreciating a face as a whole, BDD sufferers may instead concentrate on a collection of features. Whereas most people see a face, someone with BDD will see a nose, eyes, a jaw, a chin, hair, ears and so on. This inability to see the “big picture” can lead to an obsession with individual features – divorced from the whole – and also a tendency for perception to shift markedly as the brain attempts to form a coherent whole from the details.

I notice that last tendency in myself to a significant degree; my perception changes hour to hour. Of course my face does not change, but the reflection in the mirror will appear vastly and confusingly different, and even almost unrecognisable at times.



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09 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm

I do, not officially diagnosed. I have never been a "hottie" always had things about my appearance that were mocked. Add to that the competitive nature of teenage girls. Then a dash of AS needing everything to look a certain way. Recipe for disaster.

I developed anorexia as a teenager. I was always underweight as a kid and through my teens I was probably a good 10-15 lbs under a healthy weight. I didn't count calories but did watch my weight and never ate a lot. After I was diagnosed with depression at 19 I started meds. That helped somewhat. I was able to stop focusing on the scale, but never stopped obsessing about my face.

My eyebrows, my nose, my teeth, my skin, my hair, the list goes on.

In my early 20's I actually got up to the healthy weight range for my height and frame which was about 125-130. I didn't mind my photo being taken. I felt great about my appearance to the point that if I traveled back to my home town I wanted everyone to see me. I never did see a single old classmate. Then my meds got changed again and I gained 15 lbs in a few weeks. Freaking out would be an understatement.

Got on different anti-depressants that worked better and then just stopped eating as much. Family was forcing me to eat, but I am a picky eater. If it is food I like I will eat until I am stuffed. Otherwise it is just eating because I have to.

Then the phrase muffin top came into my lexicon. Ugh. I got sick. I dropped to 117 but got up to 120, which is a weight my body feels good at. My clothes fit well and my stomach doesn't bother me.

Now well into my 30's my face and body are showing my age and my life long struggles with malnutrition. It is very hard for me to grasp that my appearance will continue to change. All the things I was hyper aware of as a teen are coming back to haunt me in new ways. Now it's grey hairs, wrinkles, dark under eye circles, my nose getting even bigger! Cellulite. :x

The cherry on top is I discovered extra body hair and acne are a side effect of anorexia and malnutrition. And that even if you get well, that the hair may not go away. Women aren't supposed to have excess body hair, if you went by movies or magazines, they aren't supposed to have any at all.



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09 Jan 2014, 11:41 pm

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I wonder if there are any other aspies on here who struggle with body dysmorphic disorder.

I have struggled with this most of my adult life. It's not so bad now, but there was a period (from about age 19 to age 24, especially), where it was REALLY bad. I thought my face was crooked, especially my nose. There was a long time where I literally thought I was the ugliest guy on the entire planet. I would sit in my room in tears literally begging God to perform a miracle and change my face. A couple of times, I would try to perform a Silva mind-control type technique which I invented ad hoc to try to literally warp my face into another one. There was never a mirror which I walked past into to which I would not look and study all the defects and then get EXTREMELY depressed. Also, the light in which I am standing makes a HUGE difference in how I perceive my face to look. In fact, sometimes if the light is right (usually if it's bright and it's shining directly down and whose brightness is constant throughout the entire volume of the room.....usually halogen lights), I will literally think I'm the most beautiful man I've ever seen. And then a few minutes later, I'll look into another mirror where, say, a lamp which is adjacent to my face, and then get depressed again, literally thinking I'm the most ugly mofo on the planet.

When I was in the Navy, I befriended this gay guy on my ship. At one time, he told me that I was the hottest guy he had ever met. So I would always hang out with him because he made me feel so wonderful about myself. I feel bad because I was basically using this guy. We had one very minor sexual encounter, but this encounter pretty much made me decide that I wasn't gay.

Now that I'm 36, I haven't exactly "grown out" of it. I still will obsessively go to the gym and I have this thing with my hair where it has to be kept at a constant "optimum" length (that's my thing now: I HATE my hair).

But I've never had a girlfriend, am basically a virgin, and am extremely afraid of women - not just because of my obsession with appearance but for plenty of other reasons as well.

Can anyone relate?


Yeah, actually I can, there was a period for about a year where I wouldn't really leave the house, I stopped going to school. I would spend hours in front of the mirror, and I thought everyone was disgusted by my appearance. I swear I heard a librarian say "That is the ugliest boy I have ever seen" as I walked out the door, it pretty much ruined me. I would not leave the house after that, would hardly leave my room, I kept taking pictures of myself, I learned that pictures from the right side of my face made my nose look crooked and my face looked uglier from that side, I would take two mirrors and have them at right angles to see my face for how it was, and I would take videos and pictures of my face. My psychologist gave me a pamphlet on body dysmorphic disorder. It's pretty much the worst hell anyone can experience I don't know if its worse than chronic guilt or shame say if you were responsible for the death of a loved one. But when I felt that way I could not function. There was no way to relate to people, I felt horrible. It felt worse than wanting to die. Chronic intense anxiety and isolation. But soon after changed the diagnosis to paranoid schizophrenia. I still think I'm pretty ugly. But not wear-a-paper-bag in public ugly.



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10 Jan 2014, 2:29 pm

PinkFeelingBlue- Where did you get that pic of a rabbit? It looks almost exactly like the one I own.

I sympathise with anyone who had BDD. I think I have it too. Mines is quite severe, but it's less severe than how it was a few years back. I've been a nervous wreck with anxiety from very young, and later on with OCD. So i guess obsessing over some perceived, and some other very much real flaws, isn't a major surprise. i got bullied and belittled a lot over years, plus genuinely getting stared at by people. this wasn't all in my head stuff. now i don't know why i obsess over my looks since i've already given up wanting friends or a relationship since i feel i'm too big a weirdo to deserve any of this. i guess i just cant help obsess over negative things.



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10 Jan 2014, 2:33 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
^ I wouldn't at all be surprised if a lot of our homeless population is rife with aspies with drug addictions.

Mostly junkies, schizophrenics, ex-cons and veterans with PTSD, according to my friend in Social Services.

Sorry, no link or other provenance, so it may not be correct. :(



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10 Jan 2014, 7:57 pm

i_wanna_blue wrote:
PinkFeelingBlue- Where did you get that pic of a rabbit? It looks almost exactly like the one I own.


It's an old internet meme, and I just always found it funny. Pancake Bunny



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12 Jan 2014, 1:39 pm

PinkFeelingBlue wrote:
i_wanna_blue wrote:
PinkFeelingBlue- Where did you get that pic of a rabbit? It looks almost exactly like the one I own.


It's an old internet meme, and I just always found it funny. Pancake Bunny


Oh I see. I don't really pay much attention to memes. i got a shock since i thought it was my bun with a pancake on her head. :lol: mine looks very similar.

(Apologies for going off topic)



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12 Jan 2014, 1:54 pm

I struggled a lot with it when I was younger. My brain didn't match my body.

I think that might be why I was quite self destructive.

Things seemed to settle down for me when I was in my 30's, after going on a course of anti-psychotics for a completely unrelated problem.

It's strange the way things turn out nice sometimes.


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