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09 Mar 2018, 7:26 pm

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I was super religious and devotededly pious /obedient all my life till maybe last year and yet I was extremely depressed since I was 9 or 10.
So it made no difference.

Now I no longer am religious and still fall into the ‘extremely depressed and anxious’ score according to my psychologist and dr. So... duh that wouldn’t make much of an impact. People are ridiculous.


I am somewhat religious and found that I find fellowship meals at small churches with people who live to serve others to have been a help to me. My psych dr said being around people more could help.

I am a lifelong introvert and am finding learning conversational skills to be difficult but it is slowly doing me some good I think.

I must admit megachurches and the like did nothing but make things worse for me. I have terrible social anxiety and lots of people make me want to run out of a building quickly.

I was 'severely depressed' until maybe 3 months ago and it's down to moderate now. I think socializing at church and hymn singing the older type music has helped me a lot.


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10 Mar 2018, 6:27 am

This kind of goes along with the religious reason. My girlfriend's mom believes that thoughts have power. Not in the sense that you make it happen yourself due to how you act/react to believing it but rather she believes that god or the universe makes bad things happen to you because you had a bad thought that they will. Like if a thought enters your head that a friend will die, & your friend just happens to have a heart attack the next day, it's because of the universe causing it to happen due to you having the thought. Anyways.. my girlfriend's mom believes that both their depressions are due to the thoughts have power method. She believes that the universe will cure her depression if she just has positive thoughts & enough faith that it will. She refuses all medical treatment for depression because of this.


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10 Mar 2018, 9:08 am

darthAsperger wrote:
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I was super religious and devotededly pious /obedient all my life till maybe last year and yet I was extremely depressed since I was 9 or 10.
So it made no difference.

Now I no longer am religious and still fall into the ‘extremely depressed and anxious’ score according to my psychologist and dr. So... duh that wouldn’t make much of an impact. People are ridiculous.


I am somewhat religious and found that I find fellowship meals at small churches with people who live to serve others to have been a help to me. My psych dr said being around people more could help.

I am a lifelong introvert and am finding learning conversational skills to be difficult but it is slowly doing me some good I think.

I must admit megachurches and the like did nothing but make things worse for me. I have terrible social anxiety and lots of people make me want to run out of a building quickly.

I was 'severely depressed' until maybe 3 months ago and it's down to moderate now. I think socializing at church and hymn singing the older type music has helped me a lot.


That’s really good to hear.
I remember Susan Boyle (who is a diagnosed autistic now) said similar things about church music.
I want to get back into religion but to be honest I feel happier more sincere and believing and connected to God if I keep to myself and just do what I know is right and don’t go to any religious place with people everywhere saying lots of things. It makes me depressed.


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12 Mar 2018, 11:19 am

blooiejagwa wrote:

That’s really good to hear.
I remember Susan Boyle (who is a diagnosed autistic now) said similar things about church music.
I want to get back into religion but to be honest I feel happier more sincere and believing and connected to God if I keep to myself and just do what I know is right and don’t go to any religious place with people everywhere saying lots of things. It makes me depressed.


I listened to River of Time by Naomi Judd on the subject of severe depression and she talked about the need to belong to something and how much doing good to others was for her. She is involved in prevention of cruelty to animals and it gave her something to look forward to or help with when her singing career wound down.

Anyway, a preacher once told me 'eat the meat an spit out the bones' with respect to dealing with people in any organization and I think he was right. I love doing service work for the less fortunate when I can. It has a way of reminding me I have it better than others, which helps with "persistent depressive disorder" (meds did nothing for it).


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12 Mar 2018, 5:59 pm

Ok thanks for mentioning that

I wonder whether a person can join A church fr volunteer work despite not being Christian?? I will ask


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12 Mar 2018, 8:09 pm

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Ok thanks for mentioning that

I wonder whether a person can join A church fr volunteer work despite not being Christian?? I will ask


I would be surprised if someone who is not a member would not be allowed to do volunteer work. I started going to a certain church because they heard I could work on some equipment they needed to use and asked me to help them.

I've done humanitarian work with various organizations in different religions and they didn't care what I believed at all. some group that is non denominational or aimed at helping homeless/whatever probably isnt going to care at all as long as you don't make fun of them or whatever.


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15 Mar 2018, 6:00 am

These are 1st wold problems. Imagine if you were living in a 3rd world country. See you don't have it that bad. :arrow:
Now I'm more depressed because I'm feeling bad for the people in 3rd world countries & feeling like a loser for feeling bad about myself cuz my problems aren't as bad as theirs are which makes me feel worse than before.


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15 Mar 2018, 7:43 am

I think we perseverate like our brain is a horse drawn carriage that got stuck in the mud of the track. .. and we try to get out and just make it worse (sink deeper or topple the carriage).
So we definitely need assistance to break out of that and find something better to think about


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15 Mar 2018, 10:51 am

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These are 1st wold problems. Imagine if you were living in a 3rd world country. See you don't have it that bad. :arrow:
Now I'm more depressed because I'm feeling bad for the people in 3rd world countries & feeling like a loser for feeling bad about myself cuz my problems aren't as bad as theirs are which makes me feel worse than before.



It was suggested to me that I 'change my thinking' about what depresses me and thinking about the rest of the world's problems compared to mine was part of that.

I can see where social workers and caretakers could be depressed all the time from thinking about people with _serious_ problems.


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nick007 wrote:
These are 1st wold problems. Imagine if you were living in a 3rd world country. See you don't have it that bad. :arrow:
Now I'm more depressed because I'm feeling bad for the people in 3rd world countries & feeling like a loser for feeling bad about myself cuz my problems aren't as bad as theirs are which makes me feel worse than before.

This is particularly idiotic when your depression isn't even caused by "problems". Sometimes it really is a brain disease.

If you are depressed this "it could be worse" crap is almost certain to come across as an insinuation that you are "weak". You feel like "I can hardly handle 1st world problems, I'm so pathetic I'd just want to die immediately if I were to experience real problems". The thing is depression doesn't even work like that.

Obviously when you're depressed it's hard to handle even little problems. Even solving problems gives little joy when you get anhedonia with your depression. The issue isn't "problems". The issue is without the right brain chemistry function it will feel pointless regardless.



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25 Mar 2018, 11:04 am

I believe I once encountered a genius stating 'having more sex' cured depression. No, it does not.


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27 Mar 2018, 6:38 am

Once one had told me to talk to more people and smile.
Seriously. :x Like acting and forcing yourself solves everything.

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My own 'cure'? :lol: It could be stupid for someone, it could make sense to someone else:
It's to regain or find 'fire' by any means. Internal 'fire'. Whatever kind of 'fire' that is, I'm sure it's the intangible/immaterial kind -- it could mean anything that involves passion, fulfillment, purpose, or some 'filing'. :lol: And I highly doubt any person would know what that meant.


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28 Mar 2018, 3:21 am

I think my girlfriend heard this one before :arrow: "But your too pretty to be depressed"


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30 Mar 2018, 12:17 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
- Internet tough guys think that I need to work out

This one can actually work due to serotonin secretion.

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This completely ignores the real reason why I can't get laid. It's hard to find a women who will listen to me talk about amphipod diversity for hours.

Sex workers.

One more treatment that may look stupid (but it's not) is sleep deprivation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_dep ... Depression



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30 Mar 2018, 12:30 pm

Probably the worst "cure" for depression ever is to force the person to not act sad or unhappy, by telling them to smile and pretend they are. That's just garbage. We live in a society where happiness is seen as something that should be our dominant emotion, which is fine for the most part, but when we aren't happy it's almost as if we aren't allowed to. Haven't people seen the movie Inside Out? If you try to be happy all the time it could end up becoming a disaster.

Depression is an illness. Would you tell a person with diabetes to eat an entire bowl of sugar because their illness is "imaginary" or they should just snap out of it? :roll:



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03 Apr 2018, 8:56 pm

PlanarFracture wrote:
I believe I once encountered a genius stating 'having more sex' cured depression. No, it does not.


You are correct.

A lot of 40 year old men have told me this story. "I used to be a young alpha playboy who had lots of sex. Now I'm depressed because I never sought out a deeper emotional relationship with any of the women I had sex with."

I've heard this story a million times.


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