Diagnosing the depression?
It wasn't testing or anything like that; I guess you would call it 'family talk'. My other and father both struggled with it and many other family members have had depression and it has killed some. Getting family history like this can be hard if you aren't connected to your family though, especially if they don't have official diagnosis.
I've been on medication since middle school for it. Currently I take Prozac as well as a couple supplements. B12 and fish/krill oil - they are known to help with depression somewhat. I've also had a therapist off and on nearly my entire life So with my therapists and on my own I've spent time trying to understand myself and build who I am as a person to combat the self loathing I've had. Having something that you enjoy taking part of that you are good at helps with that too.
I'm an animal lover so they have played a part in my feeling better, or in comforting me. I've largely dedicated myself and heart to my horse; as I'm not sure if I would have pulled through some of my depressive bouts without her. I don't know if animals are your thing but I think the underlying piece to it is having connection to someone - be it person or animal. Also since she is an animal, she involves quite a bit of work so I get regular outdoor exercise that I'm sure helps me regulate.
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Hmm, do you have someone to use your sex drive on?
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I've been on medication since middle school for it. Currently I take Prozac as well as a couple supplements. B12 and fish/krill oil - they are known to help with depression somewhat. I've also had a therapist off and on nearly my entire life So with my therapists and on my own I've spent time trying to understand myself and build who I am as a person to combat the self loathing I've had. Having something that you enjoy taking part of that you are good at helps with that too.
I'm an animal lover so they have played a part in my feeling better, or in comforting me. I've largely dedicated myself and heart to my horse; as I'm not sure if I would have pulled through some of my depressive bouts without her. I don't know if animals are your thing but I think the underlying piece to it is having connection to someone - be it person or animal. Also since she is an animal, she involves quite a bit of work so I get regular outdoor exercise that I'm sure helps me regulate.
It's scenarios like this that make me concerned. Because it seems to me you treat symptoms without getting close to whatever could be the root cause of the depression. And it's basically a lifelong uphill battle, never really enjoying life, going from awful to tolerable but not far beyond.
The root cause in my case would simply be listed as a Chemical imbalance. This is sort of the key idea of what depression is. There doesn't have to be something that made you feel bad, there doesn't have to be an event that created it - it's just there as an illness. The idea for treating it is about making it better, not necessarily 'curing it, as it may not be realistic to aim for that in some cases. There's still reaserch going into it of course, because there are some possible links that are just being thought about - like having various hormones pumped into the food we eat O_O Or the fast paced and increasingly stressful world we are suppose to function in.
Depression is a common co-morbid with Aspergers/ASD also. Our brains function a it differently so in the regard its not so far off to think that various balances might be altered.
It is entirely true that can be a lifelong battle. Always uphill? for some. Never enjoying any part of life? Maybe a few. The worst part of my depression was from 12 to 16ish. I still have trouble with it, but it's not as bad as that and I certainly have had happy times. Depression can manifest a bit differently for each person too. For me I sometimes am unsure if its depression causing a problem or if it's the Aspergers...or maybe my anxiety. Or maybe its a component of the Aspergers that is making me depressed (such as the isolation) When you have multiple issues it can make it even hard to pinpoint cause.
Engaging in any kind of therapy can be of benefit. Its absolutely far worse to let it sit without any attention to it, regardless of the reason for it. Many of my family members that has or had depression, particularly the ones that had died were pretty much entirely untreated. Sadly some people aren't willing or open enough to try to be treated.
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Or maybe there are people who can diagnose the underlying causes of hardcore depression that's been with me for many many years?
I don't mean just trying the handful of approved psych meds. I mean actually diagnosing what could be the cause.
Does anyone know any doctors who actually diagnose those things?
Have you had your testosterone levels checked?
I have testosterone at the upper limit (950 ng/dl) with free testosterone at a decent level (17 ng/dl), yet still suffer low self esteem and depression. My energy is high and I build muscle very easily, but still the depression persists. There is a link between testosterone and depression, however, not a 1-1 relation. I believe neurotransmitter balance and gut health contribute immensely to well being.
I had my most severe depression when I was on opioids which depleted my testosterone down to like 80 ng/dl, and my depression only lifted when I had testosterone replacement therapy. There are many causes for depression.
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Or maybe there are people who can diagnose the underlying causes of hardcore depression that's been with me for many many years?
I don't mean just trying the handful of approved psych meds. I mean actually diagnosing what could be the cause.
Does anyone know any doctors who actually diagnose those things?
Have you had your testosterone levels checked?
I have testosterone at the upper limit (950 ng/dl) with free testosterone at a decent level (17 ng/dl), yet still suffer low self esteem and depression. My energy is high and I build muscle very easily, but still the depression persists. There is a link between testosterone and depression, however, not a 1-1 relation. I believe neurotransmitter balance and gut health contribute immensely to well being.
I had my most severe depression when I was on opioids which depleted my testosterone down to like 80 ng/dl, and my depression only lifted when I had testosterone replacement therapy. There are many causes for depression.
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Or maybe there are people who can diagnose the underlying causes of hardcore depression that's been with me for many many years?
I don't mean just trying the handful of approved psych meds. I mean actually diagnosing what could be the cause.
Does anyone know any doctors who actually diagnose those things?
Have you had your testosterone levels checked?
I have testosterone at the upper limit (950 ng/dl) with free testosterone at a decent level (17 ng/dl), yet still suffer low self esteem and depression. My energy is high and I build muscle very easily, but still the depression persists. There is a link between testosterone and depression, however, not a 1-1 relation. I believe neurotransmitter balance and gut health contribute immensely to well being.
I had my most severe depression when I was on opioids which depleted my testosterone down to like 80 ng/dl, and my depression only lifted when I had testosterone replacement therapy. There are many causes for depression.
Hormones are the only thing that’s ever caused depression in me. Being in constant pain and bedbound didn’t cause depression but give me some birth control pills and within a few months I’m thinking about suicide. They’re finding a pretty strong connection between gut bacteria and anxiety and depression these days too.
I think if you have a feeling that there is some underlying cause for any health issue it’s worth your time and effort to try to figure it out and having someone trained and knowledgable to help will likely speed up the process. I just went through 5 years of bad health and started out trying to research and treat myself but didn’t make much headway. I saw a naturopath and she fixed a few of my main issues and after that I’ve been able to sort out the rest.
I'd love to know some details. PM if you prefer.
Sure. I’m happy to share. What in particular did you want to know? Getting myself healthy has become a special interest of mine so if I don’t have some guidelines I’ll likely overshare
I'd love to know some details. PM if you prefer.
Sure. I’m happy to share. What in particular did you want to know? Getting myself healthy has become a special interest of mine so if I don’t have some guidelines I’ll likely overshare
Please do overshare
Start with what the naturopath looked at, what were the conclusions, what were the main issues, how they were fixed, etc etc.
I have no idea what a naturopath is and what to expect.
I'd love to know some details. PM if you prefer.
Sure. I’m happy to share. What in particular did you want to know? Getting myself healthy has become a special interest of mine so if I don’t have some guidelines I’ll likely overshare
Please do overshare
Start with what the naturopath looked at, what were the conclusions, what were the main issues, how they were fixed, etc etc.
I have no idea what a naturopath is and what to expect.
Sorry I haven’t replied yet. I’ve been super busy with work and family stuff and will be for another week or so. I’ll come back when I can formulate a proper response if you still want it then.
I'd love to know some details. PM if you prefer.
Sure. I’m happy to share. What in particular did you want to know? Getting myself healthy has become a special interest of mine so if I don’t have some guidelines I’ll likely overshare
Please do overshare
Start with what the naturopath looked at, what were the conclusions, what were the main issues, how they were fixed, etc etc.
I have no idea what a naturopath is and what to expect.
Sorry I haven’t replied yet. I’ve been super busy with work and family stuff and will be for another week or so. I’ll come back when I can formulate a proper response if you still want it then.
Yes! Take as much time as you need, and please assume I still want the response even if I too disappear for a few days. It's getting more and more difficult for me to motivate myself to do anything about my well-being as the years go, and success stories with lots of practical details will be useful as guidance as to what to do when I do get another sudden burst of motivation.j
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