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01 Apr 2014, 2:51 am

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was that upon my advise ? anxiety / depressive shouldn't drink ever . it wasn't post medicated that I realised these triggers like drinking was bad and the ill effects kicked in latter . in fact I now realise sunlight is good for anxiety , I had read it can be bad for head injury patients , I now realise it was the suns heat/changing weather that has a major flight affect , thank god for medication theirs a bit more fight now :wink:

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05 Apr 2014, 7:01 am

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No. The last beer I had gave me a stomach ache and I just know they make my moods worse.
It does take some time for the effects to hit me but when they do I know.
Lack of sleep has definitely made my moods worse and harder to manage though.

I've got other things on my mind too which is making my anxiety worse.

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05 Apr 2014, 6:53 pm

^^^

well this takes time to work out , i'm with a disability agency and we went to a local Woolworths and they have the airconditioner really low like 19 -20 C and it was glorious for my nervous system , I said I want to really really want to work their when people set it at 24-25 c to save money it's akin to not having one at all , could the disability guy not see how bad I was in other stores? I could see he was struggling in that store as he has asthma . his "suggestions " of other lines of work is not helpful , he is a salesmen and is just trying to get his kick back , they need to listen carefully ...

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15 Apr 2014, 5:55 am

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I'll chime in. In 2008 I was diagnosed with three mental conditions (the other two I'll mention in the appropriate threads as time allows). One of those was Mood Disorder: NOS. This was suspected as a result of my brain SPECT scan that showed the emotional area of my brain malfunctioning pretty badly. These days I still get mood swings, but not as frequent as I used to (unless I've been drinking in public). Most of the time my mood is on the down side. NT's have told me I'm "always depressed or grumpy", which to me seems perfectly normal. Other times I'm either raging or having a "larger-than-life" thought (which once again I can't tell until someone tells me). After lots of researching I found out not too long ago that these are the main signs of Bipolar II. I can't seem to confirm it though.

Thoughts?

Does sound a bit like Bipolar II. Impossible to tell from a single post online though. Researching is definitely the way to go - two out of three of the disorders i have i initially self-diagnosed after researching, and I was right both times.

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15 Apr 2014, 6:02 am

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I was recently diagnosed with AS. I am a 25 y/o female. I am wondering how long bipolar episodes can last? When I was in high school I slept like 10 hours a night and napped during the day. Now I can't sleep for more than a few hours at a time. This sleep problem began when I started running my own business and that is when I began noticing my racing mind (18 years old). I have quite obvious patterns as well of needing far more sleep than usual. Other times I'm good on 5 hours a night. When I need less sleep I am far more energetic. I go through periods when I crave the few couple closest to me and then other times I will convince myself for weeks that I just cannot stand to be around them because they drive me insane. It is just so hard to distinguish what could possibly have been an episode and what is just from living with undiagnosed AS and SPD. My paternal grandfather had, what my family called, manic depression. If I do too have this disorder I think that could make sense because I feel deep depression much more often then I feel manic.. except for the sleep patterns. I am seeing my psych in a couple weeks I am just looking for input.

There can be huge variation in how long bipolar episodes can last - much bigger variation than even what is implied in the diagnostic manual. I know this first hand from personal experience.

Ironically, my mother (who we retrospectively diagnosed as also having bipolar after I was diagnosed) and I are at opposite extremes of the spectrum. Her episodes tend to last for several years, whereas I have experienced episodes as short as a few hours (full blown episodes - we're talking complete physical incapacitation due to severe depression/full blown erratic manic behaviour... it's kind of bizarre experiencing them in short bursts - I might suddenly and obsessively -out of nowhere - start researching holiday destinations with the full intent of spending thousands of dollars, only to snap out of it 3 hours later and wonder what on earth I was thinking).

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15 Apr 2014, 6:05 am

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I have high anxiety, depression and apparent bi-polar. I started taking a medication after years of denial (Atarax), but it seemed to make my heart flutter more, so I had to stop after getting the second container. I really need to try some antidepressants because I don't want a horrible year like this again where I have intense self-hatred and examination every day. I have learned my lesson though hopefully. It is always important to greet strangers with kindness, even if they appear miserable, untrustworthy, or just plain mean. And if you're nervous around women while staring at them, you will seem creepy. I WILL finally improve my self confidence next year. No more bullshitting like these last few years. Mostly anyway!

If you are bipolar, don't take anti-depressants without a mood stabilizer, or unsupervised. It can make bipolar worse, and send you into a manic state.

I hope things work out for you though, and that this is a good year.

It would have been great if the professionals I saw told me this. I read about it somewhere else last month and talked to my psychiatrist about getting off the anti-depressant I had been on since middle school (seriously) and just sticking with my mood stabilizer. I asked her following my last mixed episode. I've been dealing with mixed episodes and rapid cycling since I was sixteen, before I even really knew what those terms meant. I have two family members with Bipolar Disorder and had a feeling I would get it too. But because I've seen therapists and psychiatrists who are extremely hesitant to diagnose young people and are apparently not very educated about Cyclothymia, I didn't get officially diagnosed until I was referred to someone who did psychological testing on me last spring (at age 20). I started telling people I thought I was Bipolar when I was 17 - but I was being a "hypochondriac" teenager. I've had to deal with this sh** entirely on my own for five years because nobody told me what to do - I've spent years researching, going on forums, and trying to figure out my patterns/triggers. I'm finally off the medication I was forced to take that made my symptoms even worse. I know I'm on the right track now but it's been hell getting here.

I was just looking through this thread and this post inspired that rant. I recently "self-diagnosed" myself with Aspergers (Autism runs in my family as well) and I'm working on getting an official diagnosis. I keep wondering which of my symptoms are a result of which disorder (or a combination of the two). I have lots of friends on the Bipolar spectrum as well as the Autism spectrum (although we rarely talk about any of it) and I feel like I can't fully relate to them as much as I'd like because they don't experience both. I'm glad I found a place to talk about these things, and I'm interested in hearing other people's experiences with them.

yeah, anti-depressants can be extremely dangerous. When I was ultra ultra rapid cycling in a very severe way and a psychiatrist initially misdiagnosed me with a combination of depression and ADHD, she tried me on anti-depressant drugs and I actually went into a sort of out of control manic fit (where I had to be physically restrained as my limbs were flying everywhere, and I was almost hospitalized).

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21 Apr 2014, 1:37 am

Is there a correlation between Asperger’s syndrome and poor hygiene such as soiling underwear?

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21 Apr 2014, 2:44 am

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Is there a correlation between Asperger’s syndrome and poor hygiene such as soiling underwear?

This is actually the bipolar support thread, so this is way off topic.
I'll try to answer your question anyways very short:
Poor hygiene may occur in ppl with ASS to some degree and some have it, but poor hygiene is a lot more common in schizophrenic spectrum disorders like schizotypal PD and so on.
So to answer your question simply: yes, but just in some cases.

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04 Jun 2014, 8:44 pm

Just joined wrong planet. I am diagnosed bipolar, OCD, Tourrettes and undiagnosed Asperger's.

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04 Jun 2014, 8:49 pm

Just joined wrong planet. I am diagnosed bipolar, OCD, Tourrettes and undiagnosed Asperger's.

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07 Jun 2014, 1:10 pm

I just wanted to post here to say that I hate bipolar. The AS is not what is ruining my life, in fact my special interest has benefited my life. I can't chalk up my bipolar as a wrong diagnosis, I've had distinctly bipolar things happen to me and the doctors and the therapists agree I have bipolar. I was told my childhood nightmare involved childhood bipolar disorder and I think it really was, mixed with AS symptoms. I could have gotten along without screaming meltdowns, special ed classes, personal aids and similar things thank you very much!

As an adult, bipolar ruined my career path. I had a severe manic episode when I was trying to get experience to go to grad school. Instead of getting my Master's, I'm on several bipolar meds in an attempt to stay sane and I'm poor as heck. I love my husband very much, but my bipolar is ruining our chance at a normal life. My lithium is preventing us from starting a family and I react badly to changing my meds and trying to start a family would sacrifice how well I am doing now. I'm thinking about going back to college to try to get my Master's but I don't know.

I want to rip bipolar out of my body

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15 Jun 2014, 12:02 am

Hey all: I'm currently in the middle of a mixed episode, right now more on the down side. This happens every spring as I transition from depressed (winter) to hypomanic (summer). Astute observers will intuit that I have Bipolar 2. Well, and of course ASD. I find the medical community and the mental health community pretty abhorent, and here with ASD you are with Developmental Disabilities and with Bipolar D/O you have to go to mental health. As if we could carve our experience up into neatly compartmentalized experience? God, yes, I would LOVE that! but no, it seems each interacts with the other; when I'm hypomanic I just don't care, or can ignore other people easily and focus on whatever the all-encompassing passion is at the time.

At any rate (I'll let the tangent stand), THANK YOU ALL! Most of the time I feel very isolated and like no one will understand (though I've heard 40% of Aspies have Something on their Axis I, but who knows if we can believe statistics), A) for listening, esp. if I sound loopy; B) sharing! esp. the two recent angry posts--very much reflected my experience.

And may I close by saying: sometimes I LOVE Aspergers. My son has Aspergers, and I love EVERYTHING about this remarkable child! There is none other like him. But right now I DETEST it. I wish I could connect with people, and I hate that they think I think like them, or at least that I should think like them, and get angry when I don't (even tho of course I've told them I don't and not to get ruffled when I don't.) Then sometimes I think, I am in their life to see their darkness. Only they never do, cuz they jet. If anyone idenfies with this, I am gonna start a new thread cuz I'm flummoxed.

Sorry this is random and unorganized (though I think I maintained paragraph structure very admirably) but I am, today.

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18 Jun 2014, 4:38 am

Hello. I am new on this site and have already learnt something. My oldest is 24 and suffers mental health. He has also just been told that he is Asperger's My youngest is 21 and have schizophrenia. I never knew until now that there is a link between Mental health and Asperger's. My mother suffered all her life, she could be a good loving woman and then another time she could be a witch. You never knew from one day to the next what you was going to walk into. I suffer from depression but with help from my husband get though it each time. (Never got as bad as mum did, Just go very quiet and try to hide away at times ) Could the family history be a link to my two boys.

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18 Jun 2014, 4:32 pm

Hi guys. I'm hoping for some feedback from Bipolar II folks.

I've only had a few instances of mania that I'm aware of, but they've been bad. Seriously bad. Psychosis, paranoia, delusions, just awful stuff.

For the past couple of months I've been on a downswing. No energy, just tired and grumpy all the time, feeling useless for being unable to do things I want to do, feeling like I'm wasting my life for no reason. Even being aware that it's out of my control and not my fault really doesn't help matters.

I'm finding myself looking forward to the next upswing and hoping it will come soon.. I know how awful the mania can be, but at the moment it feels like it would be better than this. At least I'd be doing something, even if I was jumping at every shadow and seeing images of people ripping my skin off with their teeth. I keep telling myself that this time it will be different. This time I'll be ready for it. It will be the first time going into a manic episode with the awareness that it is a manic episode and I'm not just going insane. I know it will be worse than I think, but still, I hope it will be better than sitting around all day like a slug, unable to even sit up straight.

And what I'm finding most of all is that I'm jealous of people who get hypomania. It sounds just... wonderful. Nevermind the possibility of doing foolish things, even potentially dangerous things. Energy? Motivation? Confidence? Big ideas? That all sounds like a dream. I'm always either unable to get up off the couch or shaking in the corner hiding from the lizard people.

So what I'd like to hear is what hypomanic people have to say about this. Is it the dream I imagine it to be? I know it can't be all good, but really, honestly, when you get hypomanic... does it really feel as wonderful as it sounds?

I've tried just about every drug there is, and some of them have put me in a state of true euphoria. The idea of staying that way for days or weeks or months almost makes me want to cry. Is it really that good? Or is there a massive downside I'm not seeing?

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18 Jun 2014, 4:35 pm

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19 Jun 2014, 3:08 pm

These sorts of problems do tend to run in families, and autism seems to be related to schizophrenia, so yeah, the problems in your family history almost certainly have an impact on your kids. Fortunately the world is becoming more aware and understanding of these problems, and new treatment options are popping up all the time. At the very least, we have the internet and communities like this, so we all know we're not alone, and we can try to help each other![/quote]

Thank you for your answer. Someone told me about this site and yes I agree that it is a good way of knowing that we are not alone. All this is new to me but already I am finding it easier to understand.

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