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24 Jan 2012, 10:01 pm

I have 2, one is a redneck and one is a guido. Worst combinations ever.


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24 Jan 2012, 10:57 pm

Yes, I had a relative who was schizophrenic (she passed away).



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25 Jan 2012, 7:46 am

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Can I just say please, I have Never witnessed my mum being violent. She did defend herself in hospital when pinned down by the Dr's but I am sure anyone would do the same. She has had such a hard life and I am very sad that I never knew the lady she was before she had me and developed this sad life altering condition. She is stable to the point of what she wants in life. TV, Coffee and cigarettes, that is her life she is isolated but you know what, I am amazed as she is now living independently in her own little flat with her cat.


I find it reassuring to know that the supposed link between schizophrenia and violent behavior has always been a myth. Schizophrenic people are no more likely to exhibit violent traits than mentally healthy people (unless they are drug addicts, which increases the risk of violent behavior in people both with and without mental disorders). Here is a great article on this topic: http://psychcentral.com/archives/violence.htm - Dispelling the Myth of Violence and Mental Illness

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A study published in May, 1998 in the Archives of General Psychiatry found that:
[...] patients discharged from psychiatric facilities who did not abuse alcohol and illegal drugs had a rate of violence no different than that of their neighbors in the community. Substance abuse raised the rate of violence both among discharged psychiatric patients and among non-patients.
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It's time that, as a society, we begin to knock down stereotypes and start breaking down the stigma associated with mental disorders. The first stereotype to go down -- permanently, we hope -- is that people who suffer from depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, an eating disorder, or any other type of mental disorder, are somehow more violent than others. This simply isn't true, unless they are involved in substance abuse. Use and abuse of substances such as drugs or alcohol is often correlated with an increase in violence anyway (e.g., due to impaired judgment).



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25 Jan 2012, 12:04 pm

I couldn't say for certain, but one of my female cousins possibly has some degree of this - there's a history of mental problems on her mother's side of the family. and I do know that one of her uncles was diagnosed as schizophrenic and is in a mental home.



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26 Jan 2012, 6:09 am

My mother is schizophrenic. Doctors say its a wait and see game for me. I do have Borderline Personality, Major Depressive Disorder, and Anxiety.



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03 Feb 2012, 8:24 am

People who have mental issues should not have children --- it is so sad - many families effected and these mental illnesses travel through generations.
My half brother has mental illness. He is on a lot of medications and these changed him in to scared frightened person hiding in his room, obsessed about everything, when spring comes he is getting worse and usually goes in to mental hospital for a month and is on very strong medications (and he is in vegetable state then). He is definitely non violent, but he is with severe disability. His mother too had mental illness and tricked my dad in to marrying her (she crafted this big story she is alone in the word and her parents are dead, but she had like 5 siblings and parents were healthy and sound). The truth came out eventually, but by then my dad and she had 3 kids. She had horrible moments and was suicidal. Eventually she committed suicide, when my half brothers and sister where teenagers. My dad was married second time with my mother by then. And.... my sister killed herself (I am sure she had mental problems) and my brother is in state I just described.
I think people with serious mental illnesses like Schizophrenia should not have any kids period.



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03 Feb 2012, 10:59 am

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All of my relatives subscribe to the same paranoid conspiracy theory. They believe in an evil supernatural creature that telepathically sends people indecent and sinful thoughts, and another supernatural being that constantly watches them and keeps a checklist about their behavior.

They further believe that most people are influenced by the evil supernatural entity, and are completely unaware that they are doing his bidding. Everybody who doesn't subscribe to their ideas is regarded as a mind-controlled agent of evil, like something from the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Whereas they regard themselves as the only true followers of the other, benevolent superpowered entity, who will reward them after their death (they believe themselves to be immortal) and throw everyone else into a lake of fire.

They also engage in "magical thinking", as psychiatrists call it, and believe that if they direct their thoughts at their superpowered protector, he might grant them a wish or alter reality in their favor. On top of that, they see signs and patterns everywhere. Everything around them is somehow connected to or controlled by supernatural forces. And then there is their disturbing end-of-the-world belief. They are actually looking forward to an apocalyptic event that involves another world war and a superpowered battle between good and evil invisible forces. It's a full-blown conspiracy theory if you ask me.

But for some strange reason, medical specialists and society in general view these beliefs as completely normal and sane. I, on the other hand, try my best to be an entirely rational person, and I got diagnosed with schizophrenia. Go figure :roll:


Interesting, I wonder if the diagnostic patterns in Europe are different. I know some more socially inclined people there are diagnosed with AS.

My aunt and father are exactly like what you describe and are both diagnosed schizophrenics.

All of these traits by themselves aren't so bad but they are both VERY involved in other people's business, they make it their business to figure out if anyone they meet is being mind-controlled, like you said. If you have any kind of relationship with them at all they will totally and completely invade your life under the pretense(that they probably truly believe) of trying to "save" you.


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04 Feb 2012, 4:46 pm

I was told my biological mom was schizophrenic.



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04 Feb 2012, 5:05 pm

No, but I have a mother with borderline personality disorder. I'll trade her for two schizophrenic relatives any day.

Thats trading for keeps, no give backs.


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04 Feb 2012, 8:04 pm

lyrute wrote:
People who have mental issues should not have children --- it is so sad - many families effected and these mental illnesses travel through generations.
My half brother has mental illness. He is on a lot of medications and these changed him in to scared frightened person hiding in his room, obsessed about everything, when spring comes he is getting worse and usually goes in to mental hospital for a month and is on very strong medications (and he is in vegetable state then). He is definitely non violent, but he is with severe disability. His mother too had mental illness and tricked my dad in to marrying her (she crafted this big story she is alone in the word and her parents are dead, but she had like 5 siblings and parents were healthy and sound). The truth came out eventually, but by then my dad and she had 3 kids. She had horrible moments and was suicidal. Eventually she committed suicide, when my half brothers and sister where teenagers. My dad was married second time with my mother by then. And.... my sister killed herself (I am sure she had mental problems) and my brother is in state I just described.
I think people with serious mental illnesses like Schizophrenia should not have any kids period.


I'm sorry mental illness affected your family that way. It must've been very hard.

It's true that mental illnesses can be heritable, especially the more serious ones. However, it often takes bad environmental situations to bring them out. Protective factors like a supportive family decrease the risk of developing a mental illness, and lowers its severity if it does occur. Medication and therapy are there to help. Finding the right medication can be difficult, but it's a process that's worth the effort. People with mental illnesses are sick, just like anyone with a physical illness. It prevents them from being themselves, but there's definitely hope. I think that a lot of good people suffer from a mental illness, maybe even people you know. It's not always easy to tell from the outside. To deny someone the chance to have kids is wrong imo, because they could be a great parent once stable.



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05 Feb 2012, 5:51 am

lyrute wrote:
People who have mental issues should not have children --- it is so sad - many families effected and these mental illnesses travel through generations.
My half brother has mental illness. He is on a lot of medications and these changed him in to scared frightened person hiding in his room, obsessed about everything, when spring comes he is getting worse and usually goes in to mental hospital for a month and is on very strong medications (and he is in vegetable state then). He is definitely non violent, but he is with severe disability. His mother too had mental illness and tricked my dad in to marrying her (she crafted this big story she is alone in the word and her parents are dead, but she had like 5 siblings and parents were healthy and sound). The truth came out eventually, but by then my dad and she had 3 kids. She had horrible moments and was suicidal. Eventually she committed suicide, when my half brothers and sister where teenagers. My dad was married second time with my mother by then. And.... my sister killed herself (I am sure she had mental problems) and my brother is in state I just described.
I think people with serious mental illnesses like Schizophrenia should not have any kids period.

Is there really more chance for it to pass from parents to children, than, say having someone else in your family who is ill? I was told that when doctors want to know if you have mental illness in your family, they want to know if anyone is sick, it doesn't have to be your parents, it's not always the parent and child who may be sick.


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05 Feb 2012, 10:48 am

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lyrute wrote:
People who have mental issues should not have children --- it is so sad - many families effected and these mental illnesses travel through generations.
My half brother has mental illness. He is on a lot of medications and these changed him in to scared frightened person hiding in his room, obsessed about everything, when spring comes he is getting worse and usually goes in to mental hospital for a month and is on very strong medications (and he is in vegetable state then). He is definitely non violent, but he is with severe disability. His mother too had mental illness and tricked my dad in to marrying her (she crafted this big story she is alone in the word and her parents are dead, but she had like 5 siblings and parents were healthy and sound). The truth came out eventually, but by then my dad and she had 3 kids. She had horrible moments and was suicidal. Eventually she committed suicide, when my half brothers and sister where teenagers. My dad was married second time with my mother by then. And.... my sister killed herself (I am sure she had mental problems) and my brother is in state I just described.
I think people with serious mental illnesses like Schizophrenia should not have any kids period.

Is there really more chance for it to pass from parents to children, than, say having someone else in your family who is ill? I was told that when doctors want to know if you have mental illness in your family, they want to know if anyone is sick, it doesn't have to be your parents, it's not always the parent and child who may be sick.


No, actually. They say about 25% chance from parent to child.

It seems to happen at about the same rate as when someone has a schizophrenic grandparent or aunt/uncle.


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06 Feb 2012, 7:52 am

Thank you.


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09 Feb 2012, 12:32 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
No, but I have a mother with borderline personality disorder. I'll trade her for two schizophrenic relatives any day.

Thats trading for keeps, no give backs.


Not all of us BPDs are that bad :( )but i can understand(

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People who have mental issues should not have children ---

No one knew my mom was sick until she was about 25-ish. (she had me at 19)

Also sorry about the sh***y experience.