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Do I have schizotypal disorder or schizophrenia?
Definately yes 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
Rather yes 35%  35%  [ 17 ]
Rather no 24%  24%  [ 12 ]
Defnately no 29%  29%  [ 14 ]
Total votes : 49

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29 Dec 2018, 11:31 pm

^^^you remind me of Nobel prize winner John Nash. :study:



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30 Dec 2018, 1:41 pm

Quite mamy people in the poll voted that I have no schizotypal disorder or schizophrenia. However, I have diagnosis of schizophrenia-type disorder since almost four years and in some time in 2016 I had diagnosis of (paranoid) schizophrenia.

I have no friends and colleagues since about 11 years. I take antipsychotic drugs regularly. I rather have not idea about occupational life.

Normal shower is a challenge for me. Last times I had no shower since above 40 days. It does not bother me so much when I smell not so well.

I applied for ruling of disability and social pension in 2015, after finishing attending to lectures and classes on the studies. Earlier I had not them. I have disability level 2 (moderate). I received social pension (about 600 - 800 PLN every month), which is quite hard to obtain without need of being on the commission again two times, when I had diagnoses of schizotypal disorder, Asperger's and OCD. I finished MSc studies 23.3.2017, about 1,5 year after the time when I should finish it normally. I was not employed or underemployed last time, after ending studies.

I was in day hospital (Polish: oddział dzienny) three (or four) times:
- 4.4.2016 to 24.6.2016,
- 8.11.2016 to 27.1.2017,
- 27.4.2017 to 24.7.2017.
I had also going to a day hospital "for trial" from 30.1.2017 to 3.2.2017.



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30 Dec 2018, 2:09 pm

What's it like then?

I had psychosis for a couple of years including magical thinking and connecting every random thing and weaving it into a waking nightmare. I stopped taking the meds as soon as I was released from hospital and sort of bought myself back by going to work and reading books, putting my focus outside and keeping busy. Are you able to do that or not?

(I still burn out periodically and don't function well but don't have the crazy narratives going on how about you?)



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30 Dec 2018, 2:17 pm

I have the job which will end in next two weeks and in that job I had "tons" of obsessions (OCD compulsions) associated with oathing.
I think about my coincidences really much and like it. Coincidences absorb me, can be main topic of thoughts. I think that it does not make my functioning lower.
I have not a wife but I have need of marriage with the woman similar to me and procreating offspring "as fast as possible" (but not by sinful sorts of intercourse, such as pre-marital and extramarital).

In second half of 2017 I read about certain triad of numbers. From first digits of these numbers phrase: 21 7 can be formed. There were also three other digits in these numbers, their sum is 21 and arithmetical mean is 7, these numbers are from the triad 3, 6, 9. These numbers together have six digits and one digit appears two times in them and it is nine. Product of these six digits is divisible by 21 or 7 and by 3, 6 and 9.

There is the triad 7, 11, 13 which is associated with these three numbers mentioned above. Product of digits forming 7, 11, 13 is 21 and is 3*6*9 (162) times smaller than product of digits in triad mentioned earlier.
Product of first digits in the numbers 7, 11, 13 is 7*1*1 = 7.
Product of last digits in the numbers 7, 11, 13 is 7*1*3 = 21 (7 is first and last digit in one-digit number 7).
I had coincidences with 11, 13, 17 and 1, 1, 3, 7 - sets of numbers which have the same product of digits as 7, 11, 13. 21.7 "persecutes" me :)

I might notice coincidence with 1, 1, 3, 7 only in 2018, it was associated with 33, 42, 51. When I was about 13 - 15 years old, I invented bad, evil meanings for Polish names of chemical elements with atomic numbers 33, 42, 51. It was sinful and I regret it. About 12 years later these three numbers brought large coinicidence!



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30 Dec 2018, 2:22 pm

I'm not even going to attempt to decipher the meanings that you have attached to certain numbers, I'm very familiar with that kind of thinking already. I want to know if focusing on tasks helps you to stop ruminating?



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30 Dec 2018, 5:38 pm

Coincidences may lower the number of ruminations associated with OCD. Coincidences are generally pleasant, they are not OCD. I have a job which does not prevent me from obsessive thoughts associated with oathing. I "dance" due to compulsions which looks strange and "stupid".

Coincidence 21.7 is associated with 3, 6, 9 ("Tesla's arithmetic sequence") because 7th number in the arithmetic sequence starting with 3, 6, 9 is 21.
13.11.2015 I heard about 3, 6, 9 in a TV programme about Tesla, it was emitted on 84th channel of satellite television and sum of 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21 is 84. Numbers formed by two last digits of numbers in the date 13.11.2015 sorted ascendingly form an arithmetic sequence with sum 39 (11, 13, 15). Arithmetic mean of digits in 39 is 6 and 3, 6, 9 form "that" sequence.

My coincidences started about 18-21.09.2014, most important event for first coincidences took place 19.9.2014, when I took photos (using smartphone) of Jewish cementery and fragments of Catholic cementery. About 11 p.m. that day I saw photos of Jewish and Catholic cementery on the same smartphone and they were taken by another person who received Asperger's syndrome diagnosis.

My first visit with the psychiatrist after beginning of my coincidences took place 21.10.2014 and was postponed from 7.10.2014. That time it was not a coincidence yet, coincidence of 21.7 emerged about 28.4.2015. Next visit was 27.1.2015 and during it I was diagnosed with schizophrenia-type disorder first time. From digits in the numbers meaning day and month in the date 27.1.2015 phrase 21 7 can be formed, in addition, sum of numbers in phrase 27 1 is the same as in 21 7 and is 28.
I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome (F84.5), mixed obsessive-compulsive disorder (F42.2) and schizotypal disorder (F21) at the same time first time 28.4.2015. From the digits in that date 84 5 or 42 2 (there are two digits 2 in the date) or 21 can be formed, I noticed it only in spring 2017 (quite lately). 28.4 - digits sorted ascendingly or descendingly form arithmetic sequence with sum 14 (21-7) - 2, 4, 8 or 8, 4, 2. In addition, 28 is 21+7 and 28:4 is 7.



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30 Dec 2018, 5:55 pm

I wish I could change my vote, you definitely sound like the patients I met on the secure ward. If I was trapped in a building with you I'd be more inclined to digest what you are saying.

Has anyone ever managed to persuade you that you are delusional? Or rather, how many people have failed to convince you that you are delusional?

Do you think that you are onto something or is it a fascinating game/stim?



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30 Dec 2018, 6:29 pm

Some people voted in polls which I wrote on different forums that my coincidences are delusions. However, quite many voted that they are just results of mathematical common chance. People in Polish AS forums might try to persuade me that I am delusional or have schizophrenia, but I had doubts. Nobody from my family tried to persuade me that I am delusional, I did not said my mother and father about diagnoses of schizotypal disorder or schizophrenia. I tried to get aripiprazole at early spring 2016, but I had very unpleasant physical restlessness after it (I got 7,5 mg three times).

It is rather not a fascinating game or stim, although I stimmed wildly 22.9.2014, when some coincidences were "revealed" (it is not so good word, but I was really excited then) to me. I have coincidences since above 51 months. They appeared suddenly.

I have an idea that Tesla's “If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe” refers to me and my coincidences or findings. Why he did not said just the magnificience of 3 or 18 (the sum of 3, 6, 9)? Why numbers forming three-membered arithmetical sequence with sum of digits 18 were used? I had many coincidences with three-membered arithmetical sequences with sums of digits 18.



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30 Dec 2018, 6:36 pm

I like your crazy jive - I stopped with mine but it might come back one day!



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30 Dec 2018, 8:55 pm

I may have "delusions" that women or people with mental disorders do not have intestines, brains, kidneys, livers, physiological needs (urination, defecation, flatulence), hemoglobin, essential trace elements in their bodies and immodest parts of the body... I may "think" that bad spirits make complex hallucinations to look as they have intimate body parts. It looks that it is relatively easy for me to believe in such a nonsense.

When I was younger, I was ashamed of having head or face, maybe I told other people that my head is a hologram or something like that. I might be ashamed of being a human after watching certain tale for children in which there were ellipsoidal brown, stripped objects which might be the result of human influence.



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01 Jan 2019, 1:55 pm

Today is 01.01.2019. Sum of numbers formed by last two digits in numbers in that date has sum 21 and arithmetic mean 7.
01+01+19 = 1+1+19 = 21

When I was about 13 - 15 years old, I invented vulgar meanings for Polish names of chemical elements with atomic numbers: 33, 42, 51. It was evil and I regret that. I can suppose that unclean spirits might dispose me to invent them.

Yesterday I noticed that three arithmetical sequences formed by five digits and three numbers can be formed from digits of arithmetic sequence: 33, 42, 51:
- 1, 23, 45 (sum 69, common difference 22),
- 3, 14, 25 (sum 42, CD 11)
- 5, 14, 23 (sum 42, CD 9).



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01 Jan 2019, 10:48 pm

^^^ I would really love to have your math talents, Nca14 :wtg: :study:



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06 Jan 2019, 1:38 pm

Thanks. I suppose that I have just NVLD in fact, no PDD, Asperger's, schizotypal disorder or schizophrenia.

Today I opened certain film about Tesla's 3, 6, 9 on YouTube and noticed that it lasts 12:06 (12 minutes and 06 seconds), in Google results page it was "written" that the film lasts 12:07 (12 minutes and 07 seconds), from digits of 12:07 "21 7" can be formed.
From digits: 1, 2, 0, 6 two three-membered arithmetical sequences with sum 18 (3+6+9) and arithmetic mean 6 can be formed:
- 0, 6, 12
- 2, 6, 10.

In 2014 three men from my locality died at the same day of the week. The dates of deaths were:
- 6.12.2014
- 13.12.2014
- 20.12.2014
The numbers meaning day form an arithmetic sequence which is strongly coincident with 3, 6, 9 and 21.7:
- 6, 13, 20.
1. The common difference of 6, 13, 20 is 7 and from digits of that sequence number 21 can be formed.
2. The sum of digits of that sequence is 12 (3+9, 21 read backwards) and sum of numbers is 39 (a number with arithmetic mean of digits 6 which is composed by 3 and 9).
3. From digits of 6, 13, 20 geometrical sequence (GS) 3, 6, 12 can be formed, that GS has sum of numbers 21 and arithmetical mean 7! Sum of digits in 3, 6, 12 is 12 (it is one of members of that GS).
4. Sum of digits in numbers other than one-digit number 6 is 6 and these digits form four-membered arithmetic sequence (0, 1, 2, 3).
5. An ascending three-membered arithmetic sequence (AS) with sum of numbers 3 can be formed from digits of the sequence 6, 13, 20: 0, 1, 2.
6. From the digits of AS 6, 13, 20 an ascending three-membered arithmetic sequence with sum of numbers 6 can be formed: 1, 2, 3.
7. An ascending three-membered arithmetic sequence with sum of digits 9 can be formed from digits of 6, 13, 20. It is 0, 3, 6.
8. Two ascending three-membered ASes with sum of numbers 18 (3+6+9) can be formed from digits of that sequence: 0, 6, 12 and 2, 6, 10. Sum of digits in these ASes is 9 and their arithmetic mean is 6. Big coincidence!
9. Sum of first numbers in the sequence 6, 13, 20 is 9 (6+1+2) and sum of second numbers is 3 (3+0), the difference of 9 and 3 is 6.
10. The product of numbers 3, 6, 9 (162) can be formed from first digits of 6, 13, 20. The product of 21*6 (126) also can be formed from these digits.



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06 Jan 2019, 11:29 pm

^^wow :o the closest I can come to grasping such, came from watching the scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz say this:
"The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side."



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07 Jan 2019, 5:43 pm

There are coincidences with 21 7 associated with the dates 6.12.2014, 13.12.2014 and 20.12.2014.

Sums of digits in last numbers in these dates are 7 (2+0+1+4). There are 3 numbers 2014. Sums of digits form constant arithmetic or geometric sequence - 7, 7, 7. It has arithmetic mean 7 and sum of numbers 21.
Sum of three numbers: 2014, 2014, 2014 is 6042. From the digits of number 6042 four-membered AS can be formed: 0, 2, 4, 6.

Sums of digits in first and second numbers of these dates are:
6+1+2 = 9
1+3+1+2 = 7
2+0+1+2 = 5.
These sums form arithmetic sequence with sum 21 and arithmetic mean 7.

Sums of three numbers in the dates are:
- 6+1+2+2+0+1+4 = 16
- 1+3+1+2+2+0+1+4 = 14
- 2+0+1+2+2+0+1+4 = 12.
These sums form arithmetic sequence with sum of numbers 42 and arithmetic mean 14 (the same as arithmetic mean of numbers 21 and 7)!

In these three dates digit 1 appears 7 times and another digit forming number 21 - 2 - occurs also 7 times.



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07 Jan 2019, 11:43 pm

^^^you could be a college maths professor :star: