Narcissism and ASD

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Fundamental difference: Narcissists always consider their own self-interest first and foremost. “ What’s in it for me?”
On the Spectrum : Usually don’t do or say this nearly enough.


No I am not a narc but have lived and worked among them my entire life.
If you’re wondering why I think I’m qualified to say what makes them tick.

Hard pressed to get a random act of kindness from a Narc unless there are plenty of witnesses to congratulate them on it. If not, then something they can brag about at a later date or completely fabricate.

Has anyone ever heard of, or seen, a generous Narcissist when it went against his/her/their own best interests? Speaking of voluntarily. Not like a court order or something similar.
I believe in Unicorns.
Know a few in the Spectrum who do that on a regular basis. Without a second thought to themselves. Not always a good trait to cultivate.

“If you’ve seen One then you’ve seen one.”
Applies to everybody.

Why not? Human behavior isn’t entirely consistent.

Also, anecdotal evidence shouldn’t be relied on too much. We are prone to biases. When people don’t like someone for whatever reason, they can have trouble acknowledging any positive act they’ve done or character trait they possess. This often leads to erroneous labels such as narcissism.
I might have missed it, but in what capacity have you worked with them? What degrees or qualifications do you possess?

If you think about it Narcissists exhibit some of THE MOST childish behavior traits on a regular and consistent basis. Or more precisely, inconsistent. Rules don’t apply to them. We’re all immature at times but they make a living out of it.
Selfishness, self-centeredness, manipulating, emotionally greedy, prone to temper tantrums, lie at the drop of a dime, bullies, expert at playing the victim…And so much more. Don’t have the time.

Frequency is key. Once in a while versus every day makes a big difference. With anything.

Some members of this forum have either been diagnosed with NPD or narcissistic traits. They aren’t bad people.

Read just this morning Mary Trump said her Uncle Donald is like “a prepubescent child.” Yep like a ten year old. Took the words right out of my mouth.

“The Lion and the Lamb lie down together.”Why do good people do bad things? If a good person consistently does bad things does that make them a bad person? What makes a good person? Different things to different people. Then why use labels at all?
Every Narc I’ve known has considered themselves a “good person.” Some were staunch church goers as well. [not unusual] One Ex even SAID she was “the good one.” If you only knew how far that was from the truth you’d leave your jaw hanging wide open.
I don’t trust anybody anymore who goes around simply saying they’re a good person. You gotta show me you’re a good person by your actions and how you treat me, and others who aren’t as fortunate as they are.

As I stated previously these are my opinions which I understood I can freely express unless directed at a specific individual. You, and others like yourself, can take it or leave it. Leave it preferably. Since I have no intention of getting reported again by thin skinned people who can dish it out but not take it.
So again I am speaking from my own empirical evidence. The way most of you seem to operate. Read or leave it.

So you have to have degrees to post in this thread? Does Interior Design count? No autodidacts allowed? Ok got it!

Like Trump once said, “There’s some very fine people on both sides.”
Is that what you’re trying to tell me?
See I get your drift. Better than you know.

Anyone can report posts here, so if you make a post that contains a personal attack against another member and it gets reported, you can’t be sure who made the report. It could be someone you’ve never even engaged with.
”Narcissist” and “bad person” aren’t synonymous.
No, but for some of the claims you’ve made, you should be incorporating some research at least. How many narcissists have you known personally? It seems like you are eager to give people that label.

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Well aware of that. Opinions are stated here. Yet I was called out for my credentials for stating my truth, my opinion, because someone didn’t agree. My sarcasm was completely called for under those circumstances.

If you falsely label people as “narcissists,” it’s not the truth. That’s not undermining any negative experience you may have had with those people. People can behave poorly for an infinite number of reasons. Opinions are okay. It’s more of a problem when they are stated as fact.

First of all who did I label as Narcissist on this forum? The people in my life I was referring to were either clinically diagnosed or self-identify as Narcissist.
These are my facts as they happened to me. You can dispute those facts if you like. But you can’t dispute my reality and expect me to go along with it.
Just like everyone else on this thread I am not diagnosing by stating my experiences. Do you understand that at least?

Well, you said that this thread sounded like something a narc would conjure up.

You also said that you have lived AND worked with them your entire life. People who are narcissistic don’t typically admit to it. I’m not disputing your reality. I just don’t think people who aren’t psychologists are qualified to diagnose people.

Having NPD is not something that someone can help, and they aren’t necessarily bad people. I think we need to be careful about stigmatizing them, especially since some members of WP are diagnosed with it or were said to have some traits by diagnosticians.