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20 Dec 2010, 2:33 pm

I used to get runner's high's all the time, but now, I can't. I used to before entering a massive depression, and while I'm emerging now, something's different. Could someone please diagnose this problem, because it's frustrating.

Forget about the idea of getting a runner's high, because last week, I ran for over half an hour on a treadmill with it going at 7.6 mph. If I'm unable to attain euphoria at that level, then just what's to be done, anywho?

I must be lacking in dopamine, or endorphins, or opioids, or something, but what? WHy aren't I getting a runner's high? Why am I laccking in emotion, motivation, and creativity?

Just what should I take to recover from depression, anyhow? I think at my worst, I had a serotonin problem, but now, I don't, so boosting it won't solve anything.

How to trigger a dopamine release? An endorphin release? Opioid? Something else?

I've taken Zoloft, Adderall, ephedra, and imipramine, among others, but they don't seem to do the trick. I've also tried supplements like St. John's Wort, DL phenylalanine, and inositol, too.

Anybody have any idea what I'm looking for? WHat of therapy? Would hyperbaric work? Is there anyplace for it in the Pacific Northwest? How about electical stimulation? SHock therapy? Magnetic fields?

I don't know, so I'm just asking, because for the first time in my life, I'm wanting for mental energy, even if I'm currently feeling physically dandy, and emotionally sanguine.

Please help.



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20 Dec 2010, 4:31 pm

Studies show that multiple therapies are best when treating depression compared to just on type of therapy alone. Psychiatric medications alone won't be as helpful as when that form of treatment is combined with psychotherapy, and vice versa. Cognitive behavioral therapy is known to be one of the best treatments for both autism spectrum disorders and depression, but it might work slowly over time. Also, each person might work better with a different psychotherapist so you might need to search around. Once you find the right person, though, they could turn your life around. Psychotherapy can be expensive if you're uninsured but some therapists have a sliding fee for their services. This means that their fee is negotiable.
For psychiatric medications, I've also heard that different medications work well for different people. Though, the thing that bothers me about them is their potential side effects.

Also, in addition to psychiatric medications and psychotherapy, I recommend to continue running and keeping your self in good physical health in other ways like eating a well balanced diet and getting plenty of sleep. You might also want to try meditation or yoga.

I've also heard from someone who was helped by some sort of therapy called neuro feedback or bio feedback, but I don't know much about it.

Well, good luck. I hope this information is helpful.



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20 Dec 2010, 5:17 pm

A common side effect of antidepressants is that they affect libido, arousal, orgasm , etc. and leave you flat. This could be why you can get runners high anymore.



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20 Dec 2010, 5:39 pm

I have been a runner for 4 years (and not on a treadmill, I mean outside rain or shine) and you shouldn't get runners high from every run that you do. Idk about the depression thing, but I think you are confused about what a "runners high" is. You understand that it is endorphins, but I doubt that you know the actual feeling.



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20 Dec 2010, 8:00 pm

opal wrote:
A common side effect of antidepressants is that they affect libido, arousal, orgasm , etc. and leave you flat. This could be why you can get runners high anymore.


Yeah, I used to go on a really intense bike ride in the hills every day to get that high going. But I found that on SSRI's it wouldn't happen. Apparently the SSRI's somehow indirectly reduce the effects of dopamine in the brain a bit. I didn't find that Adderal helped much with that, though.



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20 Dec 2010, 11:50 pm

I'd like to be able to get around those parking lots at such a speed, that I get runner's high. That would be fun. :)


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21 Dec 2010, 6:08 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I'd like to be able to get around those parking lots at such a speed, that I get runner's high. That would be fun. :)


haha =)


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21 Dec 2010, 4:06 pm

rainbowbutterfly wrote:
Studies show that multiple therapies are best when treating depression compared to just on type of therapy alone. Psychiatric medications alone won't be as helpful as when that form of treatment is combined with psychotherapy, and vice versa. Cognitive behavioral therapy is known to be one of the best treatments for both autism spectrum disorders and depression, but it might work slowly over time. Also, each person might work better with a different psychotherapist so you might need to search around. Once you find the right person, though, they could turn your life around. Psychotherapy can be expensive if you're uninsured but some therapists have a sliding fee for their services. This means that their fee is negotiable.

Also, in addition to psychiatric medications and psychotherapy, I recommend to continue running and keeping your self in good physical health in other ways like eating a well balanced diet and getting plenty of sleep. You might also want to try meditation or yoga.

I've also heard from someone who was helped by some sort of therapy called neuro feedback or bio feedback, but I don't know much about it.

Well, good luck. I hope this information is helpful.


I think I've visited a few practitioners of cognitive behavior, but I'm unsure. As is, it seems that shrinks and I have a way of refusing to try each other's methods, and blame each other when things don't work out.

I'm not depressed anymore, and I'd it's pretty clear there's no thanks involved from therapists, or drugs. Of any kind. It's just benn a hard been a hard crawl, and I'm still crawling.



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21 Dec 2010, 4:13 pm

chrissyrun wrote:
I have been a runner for 4 years (and not on a treadmill, I mean outside rain or shine) and you shouldn't get runners high from every run that you do. Idk about the depression thing, but I think you are confused about what a "runners high" is. You understand that it is endorphins, but I doubt that you know the actual feeling.


I think I have, or we're at least talking of something similar. I'm talking about the emotional drive, energy, whatever, to get up and do things, and afterwards, despite fatigue, still wish you could do more. I've felt it, and have for most of my life, though the things that used to don't seem to anymore, and I'm not currently taking any drugs that should directly alter my brain chemistry, either. (Chromium, VitaminB, anyone?)



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21 Dec 2010, 4:18 pm

opal wrote:
A common side effect of antidepressants is that they affect libido, arousal, orgasm , etc. and leave you flat. This could be why you can get runners high anymore.


Oh, at the time I stopped getting them was over five years since I had last taken any, so I'm pretty sure that they had nothing to do with me no longer having them. On the contrary, I'm wondering about using drugs to recover them.



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29 Dec 2010, 5:42 pm

Energy drinks help.


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16 Jan 2011, 10:17 pm

rainbowbutterfly wrote:
Cognitive behavioral therapy is known to be one of the best treatments for both autism spectrum disorders and depression


CBT as treatment for ASDs? Do you have a source for that? *curious/confused*

CBT is meant for fixing irrational thought patterns that feed into themselves as a cause/symptom of mental illnesses. ASD's are a nuerological learning disability. I can't fathom a reason why one would be an affective treatment for the other.