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19 Apr 2011, 2:10 am

So I am quite convinced I am losing my sanity...but it seems rather enjoyable. being able to go numb whenever I want, is a nice effect. But the trouble is reality and everything else seem so intertwined its impossible to just 'focus on reality' I mean what is reality. Its becoming ever so confusing. I just want to live life but everything else gets in the way. I really have no one to talk to about this..so I figured I woudl get it off my mind by posting here. But seriously I feel like I was never meant for this world and will never find my place in it. I am so terribly lonely when I am around people but I hide it with a ciggerette, an alcoholic beverage, or smoking some weed because I dont want to bring anyone down with me. I just want to find someone that might understand, but that seems quit immpossible because I am paranoid that any dude who bothers talking to me just wants in my pants and nothing more. Then again one night of enjoyment might be worth the fact that no one actually cares for me as a person. I have also given up on suicide hoping I may enjoy an overdose of alcohol before I die old in a bed while sleeping. It is a sad existance and I have no desire to seek help for it but I figured I would see if anyone here had helpful advice.



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19 Apr 2011, 4:48 am

I kinda think I feel like you. Commonly I fantasize the imposable to keep my mind off the boring reality that life has become. Though I can somewhat see myself getting the position I wanted in life, I came to realize that no matter how much of a success my life was it would just feel as worthless as it dose now. I also tried talking to those who I thought where friends but all they did was stab me in the back with rumors and lies to try to expand there drama of a life. Over the years all that really has happens is that I have grown sick of others. The only thing I want to do now is to hopefully find one person that I can trust to hang and wast the rest of the years of my life away with.

Have you ever took the time to think that the place you wanted in life may not be really what you enjoy in life?



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19 Apr 2011, 4:57 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
So I am quite convinced I am losing my sanity...but it seems rather enjoyable. being able to go numb whenever I want, is a nice effect. But the trouble is reality and everything else seem so intertwined its impossible to just 'focus on reality' I mean what is reality. Its becoming ever so confusing. I just want to live life but everything else gets in the way. I really have no one to talk to about this..so I figured I woudl get it off my mind by posting here. But seriously I feel like I was never meant for this world and will never find my place in it. I am so terribly lonely when I am around people but I hide it with a ciggerette, an alcoholic beverage, or smoking some weed because I dont want to bring anyone down with me. I just want to find someone that might understand, but that seems quit immpossible because I am paranoid that any dude who bothers talking to me just wants in my pants and nothing more. Then again one night of enjoyment might be worth the fact that no one actually cares for me as a person. I have also given up on suicide hoping I may enjoy an overdose of alcohol before I die old in a bed while sleeping. It is a sad existance and I have no desire to seek help for it but I figured I would see if anyone here had helpful advice.

As much as I'd like to help you out, the state you are in makes internet commando/Google-fu master advice a really bad idea. Your situation is way over our heads. It would be best if you call a doctor or therapist first thing in the morning. I'll be honest with you, they might want to hospitalize you. If you go voluntarily you would have some flexibility on where to go and what ward you go to. There is a pretty good chance that if they want to hospitalize you, that they would recommend outpatient treatment (I've done that before and it was fairly nice).


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20 Apr 2011, 1:38 am

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Sweetleaf wrote:
So I am quite convinced I am losing my sanity...but it seems rather enjoyable. being able to go numb whenever I want, is a nice effect. But the trouble is reality and everything else seem so intertwined its impossible to just 'focus on reality' I mean what is reality. Its becoming ever so confusing. I just want to live life but everything else gets in the way. I really have no one to talk to about this..so I figured I woudl get it off my mind by posting here. But seriously I feel like I was never meant for this world and will never find my place in it. I am so terribly lonely when I am around people but I hide it with a ciggerette, an alcoholic beverage, or smoking some weed because I dont want to bring anyone down with me. I just want to find someone that might understand, but that seems quit immpossible because I am paranoid that any dude who bothers talking to me just wants in my pants and nothing more. Then again one night of enjoyment might be worth the fact that no one actually cares for me as a person. I have also given up on suicide hoping I may enjoy an overdose of alcohol before I die old in a bed while sleeping. It is a sad existance and I have no desire to seek help for it but I figured I would see if anyone here had helpful advice.

As much as I'd like to help you out, the state you are in makes internet commando/Google-fu master advice a really bad idea. Your situation is way over our heads. It would be best if you call a doctor or therapist first thing in the morning. I'll be honest with you, they might want to hospitalize you. If you go voluntarily you would have some flexibility on where to go and what ward you go to. There is a pretty good chance that if they want to hospitalize you, that they would recommend outpatient treatment (I've done that before and it was fairly nice).

I've thought of such things before, but when I really think it through it seems extreme, and I don't really like the idea of having drugs I don't even know what are shoved down my throat or you know injected if that is what they do...I mean at least I am not actually trying to kill myself, sometimes I might drink in excess or chain smoke(usually I moderate) with the thought that it certianly will not prolong my life and that diminishes the urge to actually come up with a plan for suicide...but I will keep what you said in mind like if I really gets to the point where there is no way around it. Right now I think things could improve rather soon if I can just keep going on my own a little longer.



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20 Apr 2011, 2:59 am

They cannot force you to take meds without a court order, which is only given in really extreme circustances like someone being unable to convey their wishes in any way and will eventually wither away and die without intervention, or people that are violently out of control. Injections are rarely used except for people that can't take pills or are fighting taking court ordered meds. For people that take meds voluntarily, injections may be offered very shortly after your initial evaluation at the hospital to try and reduce the severity of symptoms causing the crisis, or offered if someone suddenly develops really severe symptoms during the course of their stay in the hospital, but other than that, they may be used in the hospital or in office visits if the pill version disagrees with you and some people taking higher doses find they experience less of a problem with side effects using the injection.


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21 Apr 2011, 1:48 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So I am quite convinced I am losing my sanity...but it seems rather enjoyable. being able to go numb whenever I want, is a nice effect. But the trouble is reality and everything else seem so intertwined its impossible to just 'focus on reality' I mean what is reality. Its becoming ever so confusing. I just want to live life but everything else gets in the way. I really have no one to talk to about this..so I figured I woudl get it off my mind by posting here. But seriously I feel like I was never meant for this world and will never find my place in it. I am so terribly lonely when I am around people but I hide it with a ciggerette, an alcoholic beverage, or smoking some weed because I dont want to bring anyone down with me. I just want to find someone that might understand, but that seems quit immpossible because I am paranoid that any dude who bothers talking to me just wants in my pants and nothing more. Then again one night of enjoyment might be worth the fact that no one actually cares for me as a person. I have also given up on suicide hoping I may enjoy an overdose of alcohol before I die old in a bed while sleeping. It is a sad existance and I have no desire to seek help for it but I figured I would see if anyone here had helpful advice.

As much as I'd like to help you out, the state you are in makes internet commando/Google-fu master advice a really bad idea. Your situation is way over our heads. It would be best if you call a doctor or therapist first thing in the morning. I'll be honest with you, they might want to hospitalize you. If you go voluntarily you would have some flexibility on where to go and what ward you go to. There is a pretty good chance that if they want to hospitalize you, that they would recommend outpatient treatment (I've done that before and it was fairly nice).

I've thought of such things before, but when I really think it through it seems extreme, and I don't really like the idea of having drugs I don't even know what are shoved down my throat or you know injected if that is what they do...I mean at least I am not actually trying to kill myself, sometimes I might drink in excess or chain smoke(usually I moderate) with the thought that it certianly will not prolong my life and that diminishes the urge to actually come up with a plan for suicide...but I will keep what you said in mind like if I really gets to the point where there is no way around it. Right now I think things could improve rather soon if I can just keep going on my own a little longer.


Are you on anti-depressants? To me you seem to be exhibiting symptoms of major depression. Obviously it could be anything, but I'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist at least and discussing the feelings you're having with them. It doesn't necessarily mean you will need to be hospitalized or anything so extreme, but they can help you with these feelings better than we can (although us on this forum are here to support you in any way we can).

Just about all mental illness is treatable these days, and with treatment you can improve your quality of life.


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21 Apr 2011, 1:53 pm

sunshower wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So I am quite convinced I am losing my sanity...but it seems rather enjoyable. being able to go numb whenever I want, is a nice effect. But the trouble is reality and everything else seem so intertwined its impossible to just 'focus on reality' I mean what is reality. Its becoming ever so confusing. I just want to live life but everything else gets in the way. I really have no one to talk to about this..so I figured I woudl get it off my mind by posting here. But seriously I feel like I was never meant for this world and will never find my place in it. I am so terribly lonely when I am around people but I hide it with a ciggerette, an alcoholic beverage, or smoking some weed because I dont want to bring anyone down with me. I just want to find someone that might understand, but that seems quit immpossible because I am paranoid that any dude who bothers talking to me just wants in my pants and nothing more. Then again one night of enjoyment might be worth the fact that no one actually cares for me as a person. I have also given up on suicide hoping I may enjoy an overdose of alcohol before I die old in a bed while sleeping. It is a sad existance and I have no desire to seek help for it but I figured I would see if anyone here had helpful advice.

As much as I'd like to help you out, the state you are in makes internet commando/Google-fu master advice a really bad idea. Your situation is way over our heads. It would be best if you call a doctor or therapist first thing in the morning. I'll be honest with you, they might want to hospitalize you. If you go voluntarily you would have some flexibility on where to go and what ward you go to. There is a pretty good chance that if they want to hospitalize you, that they would recommend outpatient treatment (I've done that before and it was fairly nice).

I've thought of such things before, but when I really think it through it seems extreme, and I don't really like the idea of having drugs I don't even know what are shoved down my throat or you know injected if that is what they do...I mean at least I am not actually trying to kill myself, sometimes I might drink in excess or chain smoke(usually I moderate) with the thought that it certianly will not prolong my life and that diminishes the urge to actually come up with a plan for suicide...but I will keep what you said in mind like if I really gets to the point where there is no way around it. Right now I think things could improve rather soon if I can just keep going on my own a little longer.


Are you on anti-depressants? To me you seem to be exhibiting symptoms of major depression. Obviously it could be anything, but I'd recommend seeing a psychiatrist at least and discussing the feelings you're having with them. It doesn't necessarily mean you will need to be hospitalized or anything so extreme, but they can help you with these feelings better than we can (although us on this forum are here to support you in any way we can).

Just about all mental illness is treatable these days, and with treatment you can improve your quality of life.


I was on anti-depressants and had the worst drug experiance of my life...it was worse then the bad mushroom trip I had. I am in conseling though but not sure that it really helps all that much. I guess part of my issue is it seems like it will be very hard for me to be able to legallly use the one thing that really does help...so there is the frustration of knowing that what I know to be helpful is illegal for me to use simply becuase its not a physical condition I am suffering from.



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21 Apr 2011, 8:12 pm

SSRI's were the worst for me as well... they even tried me on some tri-cyclic and it was hell also. The last time I went in the man said something about MAOI's. I told him to f**k off. Now the man is sending me to a university for 'a second opinion'. Heh. I laugh because really, what else can you do? The meds alone are enough to make a person nutty. I digress.

I get like this... sometimes I just numb out and really lose touch with reality. I have had bouts of time where I would just lay on the floor, get lost in my head... not move for hours and then snap back to reality when I really have to pee and fall down because my legs have also gone numb. Good comedy that. In those times the reality in my head is where I want to be and it's like I forget how to function among the people. There is so much going on besides this people world and I find the other stuff to be more... compelling(?) to me. It's like that stuff calls me and pulls me in. Sometimes I just do not care enough to fight it so I roll with it. I love it. Is that the sort of thing you mean? Is that what is going on with you or is it different? I do not mean to be dense, I am simply trying to clearly understand so I ask...


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21 Apr 2011, 8:22 pm

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I get like this... sometimes I just numb out and really lose touch with reality. I have had bouts of time where I would just lay on the floor, get lost in my head... not move for hours and then snap back to reality


I get this on occasion also, at worst for several hours, I think it's a form of catatonia?

Sweetleaf, I'm sorry to hear that anti-depressants have caused such a bad reaction for you. I guess, if you really are experiencing depression, the next best option would be to look into CBT or ACT or some sort of evidenced based therapy.


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21 Apr 2011, 10:22 pm

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I get like this... sometimes I just numb out and really lose touch with reality. I have had bouts of time where I would just lay on the floor, get lost in my head... not move for hours and then snap back to reality


I get this on occasion also, at worst for several hours, I think it's a form of catatonia?

Sweetleaf, I'm sorry to hear that anti-depressants have caused such a bad reaction for you. I guess, if you really are experiencing depression, the next best option would be to look into CBT or ACT or some sort of evidenced based therapy.


well right now I just use marijuana for it, and it helps immensely....the next step is coming up with a concvincing reason to get the Medical Marijunaa card so I can smoke legally in colordo. I mean I have gone through the guilt of doing the opposite of what society recommends but I do not see it as any worse then someone who uses the anti-deppresants. I mean sure it does not fix the problems but it helps me think about them more rationally so I can make better decisons. It numbs the pain so I can actually think about things without feeling the depression or anxiety.



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22 Apr 2011, 8:45 pm

First, drugs are not good. I mean alcohol, etc. Avoid specially if you are under treatment.

If not, SEEK FOR HELP, and stop trying to feel you bad, it's only your illness, a synthetic thought.

1- You're not alone.
2- Pills are not always a good idea.
3- Your life "path" depends on you, things will not happen without effort so stop feeling guilty and worried. Be happy guys.
4- You're not losing your sanity, it's only you don't feel ok because you're ill, pathological doubt, etc.

Google! there's a lof of information on how solve your problems, but visit a specialist as soon as possible.

This is only an opinion, I'm not a doctor so I can give you professional advice, only my experience.

I have OCD (religion related) and I beat it for a while.

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23 Apr 2011, 2:52 pm

Merry-wanna can lead to schizophrenia and should be avoided. IF you are ASD diagnosed, you may have genetics that overlap with schizophrenia spectrum potential. You could end up with a bigger problem by self medicating. I understand the appeal, I've self medicated with merry-wanna several times in my life. It helps but its always risky and always short term.

BTW, were you smoking pot during the time you were prescribed anti-depressants, or just prior to that? If so, you could have had an interaction between the two.


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23 Apr 2011, 3:54 pm

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Merry-wanna can lead to schizophrenia and should be avoided. IF you are ASD diagnosed, you may have genetics that overlap with schizophrenia spectrum potential. You could end up with a bigger problem by self medicating. I understand the appeal, I've self medicated with merry-wanna several times in my life. It helps but its always risky and always short term.

BTW, were you smoking pot during the time you were prescribed anti-depressants, or just prior to that? If so, you could have had an interaction between the two.


I think all that time as a child I spent isolated in my own head, probably did more damage then marijuana would do. I do realise there are risks though so I do moderate my use...I don't use it to 'fix' the depression it just helps me function better with the depression. but back to this inital thread....I think its my PTSD that might be causing some of the overwhelming feelings. I mean when I first suspected I had PTSD it was just a joke to me.....I did not take it seriously. I suppose I found it a bit embarrasing that I ended up with that over a random psycho killing one student and not actually witnessing any of it because I was in a different classroom.



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23 Apr 2011, 5:15 pm

Have you looked into support groups for either depression or PTSD? If you need to know that there are people that understand who you can talk to in person it might be exremely helpful. At least you can usually trust people who are going through similar experiences to be safe to talk to. The anonymity of the internet can be nice, but it can also be a crutch as it just isn't the same as having someone that can relate face to face.



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25 Apr 2011, 11:09 pm

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Have you looked into support groups for either depression or PTSD? If you need to know that there are people that understand who you can talk to in person it might be exremely helpful. At least you can usually trust people who are going through similar experiences to be safe to talk to. The anonymity of the internet can be nice, but it can also be a crutch as it just isn't the same as having someone that can relate face to face.


well i was sort of looking for an aspergers group or something, but I did not really pursue that...not sure why I guess I just do not think it would be a good experiance. I



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25 Apr 2011, 11:18 pm

seems to me when bunch of depressed people get together it would only make someone more depressed oO

might be good for ptsd to talk about what happened


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