Not exactly ASD, but then again, definitely not NT

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drgreen19
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10 Jun 2011, 4:39 pm

Hello,

As a child, I was originally diagnosed with ADD, but would later be changed to AS, because of social difficulties I had as a kid. The labeling of AS would soon prove to become somewhat of a fluke, because my social impairments differed significantly from 'textbook Asperger's'. It's not a problem of a lack of Theory of Mind, but I just really never gave a damn about socialization. I understand all the rules, but I just can't seem to find any of what the NTs did was ever something I would enjoy. I also suffered from extreme social phobia (possibly genetic, as it seems to run through my mom's side of the family) which lead to further isolation from the community. For the record, my parents were also not the 'people people' and were rather reserved and stiff. When I asked my mom about the possiblity of a Misdiagnosis, I was informed that AS was simply a personality profile (which definitely is not the case) which lead to further questioning of the Dx. However, I am also not exactly a Neurotypical, as I do have some special 'obsessions', and also my ADD and TS. I also have a strong rejection of NT culture, as I believe it is something I cannot partake in.

Mack27
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10 Jun 2011, 4:47 pm

Nothing you said precludes you from being on the spectrum. Even though you know how to play by the rules is it tiring to do so? It's not tiring for NTs, it's natural for them.

drgreen19
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10 Jun 2011, 5:11 pm

Mack27 wrote:

Nothing you said precludes you from being on the spectrum. Even though you know how to play by the rules is it tiring to do so? It's not tiring for NTs, it's natural for them.

I'm just trying to say that I seem to fall between NT and AS in many ways.

Mdyar
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10 Jun 2011, 5:11 pm

Mack27 wrote:

Nothing you said precludes you from being on the spectrum. Even though you know how to play by the rules is it tiring to do so? It's not tiring for NTs, it's natural for them.

I know of non-spectrum introverts 'get tired' in social situations and are generally asocial. It takes a much effort to meet these demands.

But I wonder if that difference between spectrum & NT is getting "tired" vs. exhaustion?

O.P. sounds similar to myself.

Mdyar
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10 Jun 2011, 6:34 pm

drgreen19 wrote:

Hello,

As a child, I was originally diagnosed with ADD, but would later be changed to AS, because of social difficulties I had as a kid. The labeling of AS would soon prove to become somewhat of a fluke, because my social impairments differed significantly from 'textbook Asperger's'. It's not a problem of a lack of Theory of Mind, but I just really never gave a damn about socialization. I understand all the rules, but I just can't seem to find any of what the NTs did was ever something I would enjoy. I also suffered from extreme social phobia (possibly genetic, as it seems to run through my mom's side of the family) which lead to further isolation from the community. For the record, my parents were also not the 'people people' and were rather reserved and stiff. When I asked my mom about the possiblity of a Misdiagnosis, I was informed that AS was simply a personality profile (which definitely is not the case) which lead to further questioning of the Dx. However, , and also my ADD and TS. I also have a strong rejection of NT culture, as I believe it is something I cannot partake in.

You can have all this and not meet the 299.80 DSM.

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I also have a strong rejection of NT culture,

I guess it could depend on locality. I'm not one to play games or lie. I like it 'straight' without any implied meanings. I like the game of truth.

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I am also not exactly a Neurotypical

I feel the same.

I've grown tired of accounting for my behavior.

There is an INTJ forum that has like minded folks. I believe that introversion is innate-- primarily.
I think people try to model this" type" solely by environmental conditioning, but how can you account for this when there is "normal" significant human contact, raised in a typical home, without any type of inherited impairments or dysfunctions?

By far, introverts are introverts by biology.

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as I do have some special 'obsession

I do, and ADHD folk do or can have special (even consuming) obsessions.

Also to add:
Gifted people( high IQ) can have some problems with social rules or ToM.

These are some examples of 'significant clusters' of people (seems to me) that would be considered nuero- atypical.

twix
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12 Jun 2011, 2:06 pm

It seems possible to me that the ADD was actually the correct diagnosis.

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