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22 Mar 2013, 6:23 pm

Hi, I am mid way through getting my 5yo daughter assessed for and ASD. We have had little feedback as yet but when we talked about her verbal stimming the Dr mentioned the possibility of mild Tourettes aswell. My daughter shouts random words a lot, seemingly more so when she is stressed. I dont think there are any physical ticks as such, but lots of stimming. Im not sure to be honest but just want to get the facts right when I have to describe her behaviour. It seems as though she is compelled to shout these words and its not just that she likes the sound of them or finds them funny.

How can you tell the difference between verbal stimming and verbal ticks, and physical stimming and physical ticks?

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22 Mar 2013, 10:52 pm

I often talk to myself, to stay oriented, stay centered, and stay happy, and to process information. I sometimes do this quietly. Other times, when getting dressed, or busting loose after a busy day, I talk to myself louder.

With stims you can of course sometimes gently redirect, other times not so much.

And if your daughter has auditory sensory issues (which per Temple Grandin probably will not show up on a regular hearing test), she might just have a hard time modulating volume. And just some feedback and information may help her with this.



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23 Mar 2013, 4:58 am

Yes she definately does have volume issues, Im constantly telling her she is talking too loud! She talks a lot, everything that pops into her head has to be vocalised, no one can get a word in. She has no problem talking over people, even when their voice is raised she is always the loudest.

Oh well, spose we will just have to wait and see! Thanks.



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23 Mar 2013, 12:52 pm

The philosopher Bertrand Russell was talking about one of his friends. And for this friend, something didn't seem like it was real until he wrote it down. And I remember thinking, that's like me!



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23 Mar 2013, 4:20 pm

I like that :)



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21 Apr 2013, 5:41 pm

Coprolalia, where one suddenly blurts out words, usually of an inappropiate nature, is actually a rather relatively rare symptom of T.S. It's considered to be a complex tic too, not a simple vocal tic, such as like my tics of barking, and/or snorting like a pig. And if that would be the only symptom, I do not see how a diagnosis of Tourette Syndrome can accurately be made. Echolalia, and/or palilalia, can be charecteristic of autistic spectrum disorders, however. Here is what I found about vocal stimming, http://anabellelistic.com/1/post/2013/01/way-to-stim-wednesday-vocal-stims.html, http://www.myspecialsweetpea.com/stimming.html. And here are some articles about vocal tics, http://www.childbrain.com/ticdisorder.shtml, http://www.psychnet-uk.com/x_new_site/DSM_IV/chronic_motor_tic.html. Hope that helped at least somewhat.



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24 Apr 2013, 11:25 pm

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How can you tell the difference between verbal stimming and verbal ticks, and physical stimming and physical ticks?


Verbal stimming is voluntary - you do it because you like doing it, or find it calming, or something.

With a tic, you feel a compulsion to do it that is difficult or impossible to resist.

For example, when I chant 'triploid diploid mixoploidy' to myself because I like the sound of it, that's a verbal stim. :)