Can keeping a secret result in a psychological condition?
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Within the team-of-rivals framework, a secret is easily understood: it is the result of struggle between competing parties in the brain. One part of the brain wants to reveal something, and another part does not want to. When there are competing votes in the brain—one for telling, and one for withholding—that defines a secret. If no party cares to tell, that’s merely a boring fact; if both parties want to tell, that’s just a good story. Without the framework of rivalry, we would have no way to understand a secret.*** The reason a secret is experienced consciously is because it results from a rivalry. It is not business as usual, and therefore the CEO is called upon to deal with it.
The main reason not to reveal a secret is aversion to the long-term consequences. A friend might think ill of you, or a lover might be hurt, or a community might ostracize you. This concern about the outcome is evidenced by the fact that people are more likely to tell their secrets to total strangers; with someone you don’t know, the neural conflict can be dissipated with none of the costs. This is why strangers can be so forthcoming on airplanes, telling all the details of their marital troubles, and why confessional booths have remained a staple in one of the world’s largest religions. It may similarly explain the appeal of prayer, especially in those religions that have very personal gods, deities who lend their ears with undivided attention and infinite love. The newest twist on this ancient need to tell secrets to a stranger can be found in the form of websites like postsecret.com, where people go to anonymously disclose their confessions. Here are some examples: “When my only daughter was stillborn, I not only thought about kidnapping a baby, I planned it out in my head. I even found myself watching new mothers with their babies trying to pick the perfect one”; “I am almost certain that your son has autism but I have no idea how to tell you”; “Sometimes I wonder why my dad molested my sister but not me. Was I not good enough?” As you have doubtless noticed, venting a secret is usually done for its own sake, not as an invitation for advice. If the listener spots an obvious solution to some problem revealed by the secret and makes the mistake of suggesting it, this will frustrate the teller—all she really wanted was to tell. The act of telling a secret can itself be the solution. An open question is why the receiver of the secrets has to be human—or human-like, in the case of deities. Telling a wall, a lizard, or a goat your secrets is much less satisfying.
Eagleman, David (2011-05-31). Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain (p. 146). Pantheon. Kindle Edition.
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You know I've read this quote many times and didn't pick up on the psychological effect. Thanks for pointing that out for me. Your insight is much appreciated. Thank you.

I've seen with my own eyes, so to speak, that people who have kept secrets about abuse can have psychological conditions. But was the abuse the cause of the condition or the secret? Was not dealing with the abuse for years and instead internalizing and reinforcing incorrect statements about oneself to oneself the cause of the condition, plus the associated stress? I have heard that abused children who report the abuse and get help for it earlier on do better in the long term. But reporting the abuse is empowering, and part of the damage done by the abuse is a feeling of a loss of power, so does a child who reports do better because they took their power back, and not because they avoided keeping a secret? You ask a really interesting question that would require a lot of research and analysis to answer.
I agree with the hypothetical statement - keeping a secret is unhealthy to the brain - but I doubt that it causes a condition, in my opinion it merely develops an underlying condition, such as depression or obsession.
I speak from experience when I say we use secrets to prevent the more unpleasant emotions and reactions from occuring. Preventing these merely develops them without addressing the central issue. Thus the central issue we avoid using secrets or other defense mechanisms.
Just my opinion.
I realize that not all secrets result in psychological conditions. I was just saying that they can.

Yes, but I believe its more accurate to say Reclusivness or Mutism would be the most common ways people get Mentall Illnesses, Privacy and secrets would probably lead into Mental Disorders.
Imho I dont believe Mental "DIS-ORDERS" are a problem..why? I believe it's becaus people with them are not in the ORDER of the Majority, not saying its fully just Im just saying that it's a balance that needs to exist that is commonly attacked imo
Imho I dont believe Mental "DIS-ORDERS" are a problem..why? I believe it's becaus people with them are not in the ORDER of the Majority, not saying its fully just Im just saying that it's a balance that needs to exist that is commonly attacked imo
I think its ironic that *mental illness* is synonymous with *mental disorder*.
Disorder means a deviation from *order*; which means *chaos*. So the term suggests that chaos is bad (undesirable). But chaos is actually good.
On another note, sociology and today's society in general is always trying to pigeon hole us into the middle of the bell curve; the middle 80% lets
say.
So the middle 80% are normal. They are order. Ordered people are easy to manage and fit into society.
So the bottom 10% and the top 10% are abnormal. They are chaos. Chaotic people are hard to manage and fit into society.
If Einstein was *normal*, then we would not have General Relativity. Is this desirable? Heck no.
This is one of the reasons that labeling *mental disorders* is pointless. It clearly shows that society is viewing the mind and psychology in the wrong light.
Another reason that labeling *mental disorders* is pointless, is that the mind is impossible to measure.
Now people might say, "But what if there is a measurable brain damage". Well then this is a *brain disorder*, not a *mental disorder*.
The brain and the mind are not the same thing. The brain is biology. The mind is consciousness.
Yes the mind is affected by the brain. But the brain is only one part of the mind. The mind also has knowledge.
Humans are universal creators. Therefore each mind has the capacity to create/learn knowledge and therefore *change* its own mind. And I don't mean changing decisions. I mean literally changing ones own mind; ones consciousness.
The mind has an mind-bogglingly awesome capacity to rewire itself. Each wire is a neural pathway. Each pathway is a learned concept. So how does
one rewire her own mind?
By learning!
Do you mean this? Why do governments pigeon hole us with sociology? Well through out history, some people believed that they know better than most people because they have lots of wealth and most people don't. Those people believe that they have more wealth because they are smarter and the people without money are not as smart. So they act upon this belief by molding society to meet that end; to tell people what to do because they don't know how to do anything without being told what to do.
-- Rami
I only read the title sorry but agree with what you just said. we are always told to read our textbook or read our prelab. Why aren't we told to figure it out and come up with our own theories in class? I'm not a teacher nor a person who would probably know the answer. But I guess it helps with following rules IDK. I'll probably change my mind on that at some point.
You are absolutely right. Students are supposed to create their own knowledge. Lecturing and reading text books doesn't work for learning. This is Popperian/Deutschian philosophy.
And David Deutsch created a parenting/education philosophy with this principle in mind called _Taking Children Seriously_ [TCS].
Check it out here: http://www.takingchildrenseriously.com/node/58
I'm homeschooling my 5 and 3 year old girls. And I'm doing it with TCS philosophy.
-- Rami
My mom had a extremely bad marriage she used to keep secrets and hide things eventually she became reclusive
even if we were talking about her she would try to attack us
So keeping secrets leads to lot of psychological damage.
Its guilt there are cases where murders have not been caught and ultimately after some years
they have themself surrendered to police inorder to let go of the guilt
Incase where we have hurt others then its shame???????????????
I was molested by my uncle........he is quite casual with me and treats me as if nothing happened
but i feel how can he just get away with it after doing such things with me
so he as no guilt
but i have shame
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Imho I dont believe Mental "DIS-ORDERS" are a problem..why? I believe it's becaus people with them are not in the ORDER of the Majority, not saying its fully just Im just saying that it's a balance that needs to exist that is commonly attacked imo
I think its ironic that *mental illness* is synonymous with *mental disorder*.
Disorder means a deviation from *order*; which means *chaos*. So the term suggests that chaos is bad (undesirable). But chaos is actually good.
On another note, sociology and today's society in general is always trying to pigeon hole us into the middle of the bell curve; the middle 80% lets
say.
So the middle 80% are normal. They are order. Ordered people are easy to manage and fit into society.
So the bottom 10% and the top 10% are abnormal. They are chaos. Chaotic people are hard to manage and fit into society.
If Einstein was *normal*, then we would not have General Relativity. Is this desirable? Heck no.
This is one of the reasons that labeling *mental disorders* is pointless. It clearly shows that society is viewing the mind and psychology in the wrong light.
Another reason that labeling *mental disorders* is pointless, is that the mind is impossible to measure.
Now people might say, "But what if there is a measurable brain damage". Well then this is a *brain disorder*, not a *mental disorder*.
The brain and the mind are not the same thing. The brain is biology. The mind is consciousness.
Yes the mind is affected by the brain. But the brain is only one part of the mind. The mind also has knowledge.
Humans are universal creators. Therefore each mind has the capacity to create/learn knowledge and therefore *change* its own mind. And I don't mean changing decisions. I mean literally changing ones own mind; ones consciousness.
The mind has an mind-bogglingly awesome capacity to rewire itself. Each wire is a neural pathway. Each pathway is a learned concept. So how does
one rewire her own mind?
By learning!
Im glad you understand me and you make good points which I agree with. =)
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