Possible to have both dyspraxia and autism?
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I notice that I have many symptoms of Dyspraxia. But I was wondering how it was similiar to Autism and if it is possible to still be on the autistic spectrum WITH dyspraxia. I managed to bold all of the symptoms that apply to me and it happens to be... alot.
Poor balance. Difficulty in riding a bicycle, going up and down hills
Poor posture and fatigue. Difficulty in standing for a long time as a result of weak muscle tone. Unstable round the joints. Some people with dyspraxia may have flat feet
Poor integration of the two sides of the body. Difficulty with some sports involving jumping and cycling
Poor hand-eye co-ordination. Difficulty with team sports especially those which involve catching a ball and batting. Difficulties with driving a car
Lack of rhythm when dancing, doing aerobics
Clumsy gait and movement. Difficulty changing direction, stopping and starting actions
Exaggerated 'accessory movements' such as flapping arms when running
Tendency to fall, trip, bump into things and people
Fine motor co-ordination skills (small movements):
Lack of manual dexterity. Poor at two-handed tasks, causing problems with using cutlery, cleaning, cooking, ironing, craft work, playing musical instruments
Poor manipulative skills. Difficulty with typing, handwriting and drawing. May have a poor pen grip, press too hard when writing and have difficulty when writing along a line
Inadequate grasp. Difficulty using tools and domestic implements, locks and keys
Difficulty with dressing and grooming activities, such as putting on makeup, shaving, doing hair, fastening clothes and tying shoelaces
Poorly established hand dominance:
May use either hand for different tasks at different times
Speech and language:
May talk continuously and repeat themselves. Some people with dyspraxia have difficulty with organising the content and sequence of their language
May have unclear speech and be unable to pronounce some words
Speech may have uncontrolled pitch, volume and rate
Eye movements:
Tracking. Difficulty in following a moving object smoothly with eyes without moving head excessively. Tendency to lose the place while reading
Poor relocating. Cannot look quickly and effectively from one object to another (for example, looking from a TV to a magazine)
Perception (interpretation of the different senses):
Poor visual perception
Over-sensitive to light
Difficulty in distinguishing sounds from background noise. Tendency to be over-sensitive to noise
Over- or under-sensitive to touch. Can result in dislike of being touched and/or aversion to over-loose or tight clothing - tactile defensiveness
Over- or under-sensitive to smell and taste, temperature and pain
Lack of awareness of body position in space and spatial relationships. Can result in bumping into and tripping over things and people, dropping and spilling things
Little sense of time, speed, distance or weight. Leading to difficulties driving, cooking
Inadequate sense of direction. Difficulty distinguishing right from left means map reading skills are poor
Learning, thought and memory:
Difficulty in planning and organising thought
Poor memory, especially short-term memory. May forget and lose things
Unfocused and erratic. Can be messy and cluttered
Poor sequencing causes problems with maths, reading and spelling and writing reports at work
Accuracy problems. Difficulty with copying sounds, writing, movements, proofreading
Difficulty in following instructions, especially more than one at a time
Difficulty with concentration. May be easily distracted
May do only one thing at a time properly, though may try to do many things at once
Slow to finish a task. May daydream and wander about aimlessly
Emotion and behaviour:
Difficulty in listening to people, especially in large groups. Can be tactless, interrupt frequently. Problems with team work
Difficulty in picking up non-verbal signals or in judging tone or pitch of voice in themselves and or others. Tendency to take things literally. May listen but not understand
Slow to adapt to new or unpredictable situations. Sometimes avoids them altogether
Impulsive. Tendency to be easily frustrated, wanting immediate gratification
Tendency to be erratic; have 'good and bad days'
Tendency to opt out of things that are too difficult
Emotions as a result of difficulties experienced:
Tend to get stressed, depressed and anxious easily
May have difficulty sleeping
Prone to low self-esteem, emotional outbursts, phobias, fears, obsessions, compulsions and addictive behaviour
I just notice that it fits a lot of the things that I have trouble with too.
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I think generally docs don't like to diagnose both in the same person, cause of how the DSM-IV TR's written and how hard it makes it to diagnose co-morbids. That said I think it is quite possible to have both even if the manual doesn't quite support that. I think from memory one of Jacqui Jackson's kids is diagnosed with both.
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I just don't know if its common for me to get so severly sore from walking around. I mean I could walk around the mall a few times and then I wake up the next morning and I'm sore as heck. I've always wondered if I have weak muscle tone. I can never endure the pain of walking around or standing.
It's not because of my shoes either because I've worn athletic shoes before and my feet still got really sore but not just my feet but my whole body. It gets so hard to walk when I am like this and I start being really slow when my mom is walking a head of me. I can walk fine but sometimes I just get like that and I don't know why.
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It's not because of my shoes either because I've worn athletic shoes before and my feet still got really sore but not just my feet but my whole body. It gets so hard to walk when I am like this and I start being really slow when my mom is walking a head of me. I can walk fine but sometimes I just get like that and I don't know why.
I have this same problem somewhat more severely, but it seems to be fibromyalgia. My legs are still hurting from walking around a department store yesterday. Usually the soreness starts anytime from the time I am doing the walking to the time I go to bed.
And I do find standing painful as well. I don't think I have dyspraxia, but I do fit all the criteria for FMS.
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I have a lot of the problems you listed (like bad handwriting, poor gait, motor clumsiness, etc.). I can seemingly stand in place, or walk around, forever without my legs getting sore. I go to sleep and am up an hyperactive the next morning without any aches or pains. However, I have weak muscles.
http://www.autism-help.org/asperger-syn ... erview.htm
Co-morbid disorders associated with aspergers
There are several psychiatric disorders that are commonly associated with Asperger's syndrome. Children are likely to present with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), while depression is a common diagnosis in adolescents and adults.
People with Aspergers syndrome symptoms may frequently be diagnosed with clinical depression, oppositional defiant disorder, antisocial personality disorder, Tourette syndrome, ADHD, general anxiety disorder, bipolar disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder or obsessive-compulsive personality disorder. Dysgraphia, dyspraxia, dyslexia or dyscalculia may also be diagnosed. For more information see the Comorbid disorders fact sheets on the home page.
I had been diagnosed with many of these disorders before being diagnosed as Asperger's. All of these can be diagnosed with Asperger's though some will not diagnose ADHD with Asperger's. I think there is something in the DSM about it.... I will have to look it up. I know I was diagnosed with ADHD, dyslexia, dysgraphia, and dyxpraxia at 7. I was diagnosed with Asperger's at 24. And yes, I am still dyspraxic and dysgraphic (great difficulty writing). I more or less grew out of the dyslexia unless I am very tired or stressed.
Hope this helps
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