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Kalinda
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07 Sep 2012, 5:18 pm

Does anyone know why or what is the cause of depersonalization in schizophrenia? I mean, I depersonalize and obsess more than I experience hallucinations. I feel impulsive, foggy, and confused about things. Sometimes I slip out of the realm Im in, and forget how to perceive linearly. I don't know if this is more Autism or DID, because I do feel frustrated by it but I don't lash out I have very good control, I just walked into wal Mart and I could see and hear everything at once on different planes, and that seems normal now. But like--maybe it's the switch from linear to almost omniscent awareness that confuses me. I go into extremely enhanced modes of perception sometimes. I'll confuse things too, like think I'm all powerful or able to control things...sorta...not completely and it's hard to explain. I just feel intrinsic sometimes and not like I'm seperated from the world. How is unity similar to schizophrenia? How is feeling one really splitting apart? I also guess a lot of things that I haven't learned. But right now I have no idea what's missing, just feel so Autistic....Im not doing anything wrong I just dont feel all there. Like I left my mind somewhere and I Cant find it/ LOL. Is this schizophrenia or what it means? Depersonalizing and confusing perceptions? Its also that my meds make it worse or appear non existent to others and my self, but the problem is still there hiding behind the engima of me and this situation....


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07 Sep 2012, 10:36 pm

Its just stress and anxity I feel like this twenty four seven. Glad I found someone with the same thing. Schizoprehnia is when you hear voices or have delusions as in thinking someones trying to posion you...including. family members etc. You can read more about differnt types of schizoprehnia on health borads...but my guess is is that its just stress....Pay no attention to it or else it gets a lot worse.



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08 Sep 2012, 7:03 pm

Thanks for your reply. I wish i could control the anxiety when it happens. I don't have schizophrenia type delusions or anything, but I do feel stressed a lot with pressure to succeed and everything. Sometimes the pressure is good though, because it helps me succeed and do more with my life.


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09 Sep 2012, 5:46 pm

Hello Kalinda. I have the same diagnosis as you so maybe I can answer some of your questions. I get dissociative symptms as well, mostly derealization which is where it seems reality is simulated. Dissociative symptoms can be caused from a number of various diagnostics. Im not sure if autism/aspergers causes this symptom but I know that schizophrenia can. I have also hear the inattentive symtpoms of adhd can be dissociating for some people. When you have multiple diagnoses it can be difficult to tell what causes what. Also you mentioned DID. Do you have blackouts? If not then its not DID because people with that black out their alternate personalities. There is a depersonalization disorder though which doenst have black outs, but these symptoms could also be caused by your schizoaffective diagnosis. Also the way they would diagnose autistic spectrum disorders when youve already been diagnosed with a schizophrenia spectrum diagnosis is if the autistic symptoms were always present and did not occur only later in life.


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09 Sep 2012, 11:31 pm

I suffer from derealization constantly. I also had depersonalization but it's gone. Xanax helps as does going to the gym.


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Kalinda
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10 Sep 2012, 12:18 am

Maybe I will try xanax or something. Anti anxiety pills never worked for me, but maybe I didn't give them long enough. I dunno, sometimes I feel like it got worse on xanax. I depersonalize but then I bounce back super fast, and then I wonder how I am relatively with the rest of the world. Like how fast or slow am I compared to others. Are others waaay ahead? Because i feel really dumb sometimes.


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10 Sep 2012, 12:23 am

Schizpergers wrote:
Hello Kalinda. I have the same diagnosis as you so maybe I can answer some of your questions. I get dissociative symptms as well, mostly derealization which is where it seems reality is simulated. Dissociative symptoms can be caused from a number of various diagnostics. Im not sure if autism/aspergers causes this symptom but I know that schizophrenia can. I have also hear the inattentive symtpoms of adhd can be dissociating for some people. When you have multiple diagnoses it can be difficult to tell what causes what. Also you mentioned DID. Do you have blackouts? If not then its not DID because people with that black out their alternate personalities. There is a depersonalization disorder though which doenst have black outs, but these symptoms could also be caused by your schizoaffective diagnosis. Also the way they would diagnose autistic spectrum disorders when youve already been diagnosed with a schizophrenia spectrum diagnosis is if the autistic symptoms were always present and did not occur only later in life.



Ok well, here's the thing. It only happens when I smoke pot. And, that's because I'm super aware of some things more than others. But when I was psychotic I got over-stimulated and would have to cover my ears or close my eyes because of all the noise and sound. Later that Autistic like feeling evolved into schizophrenia, where it all just disintegrated I guess. I don't get black outs, more like space outs, where I blank out. But it might just be the adjustment to different chemicals like Vyvanse which I just started taking a few weeks ago. Sometimes I refer to myself jokingly, but that's not the same as talking in third person I don't think. I don't hallucinate, also, while smoking pot but I did think I heard guys laughing far off and I Couldn't tell where it came from. Sometimes it's like one sense is heightened over another, so it makes sense. Schizophrenia is really just like being high. The difference is I can usually control it, I'm not sure if I could off my meds though. If I ever go off my meds for a long period of time, I pray that I become a sedentary sage or something, because I am a woman who just wants to succeed. and I don't want to hurt my family with my problems.


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12 Sep 2012, 3:49 pm

Kalinda wrote:
Ok well, here's the thing. It only happens when I smoke pot. And, that's because I'm super aware of some things more than others. But when I was psychotic I got over-stimulated and would have to cover my ears or close my eyes because of all the noise and sound. Later that Autistic like feeling evolved into schizophrenia, where it all just disintegrated I guess. I don't get black outs, more like space outs, where I blank out. But it might just be the adjustment to different chemicals like Vyvanse which I just started taking a few weeks ago. Sometimes I refer to myself jokingly, but that's not the same as talking in third person I don't think. I don't hallucinate, also, while smoking pot but I did think I heard guys laughing far off and I Couldn't tell where it came from. Sometimes it's like one sense is heightened over another, so it makes sense. Schizophrenia is really just like being high. The difference is I can usually control it, I'm not sure if I could off my meds though. If I ever go off my meds for a long period of time, I pray that I become a sedentary sage or something, because I am a woman who just wants to succeed. and I don't want to hurt my family with my problems.


If you're only getting depersonalization while smoking pot then thats normal. Everyone gets that from smoking pot because its part of being high. Drug induced symptoms do not count for psychiriatic symptoms on assessments unless their diagnosing a drug related disorder such as alcoholism or drug induced psychosis. It can be difficult to tell sometimes the difference between if something is a symptom of a psychological disorder or just something everybody experiences.


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