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23 Jan 2016, 3:32 am

Okay I know these are symptoms of schizophrenia but I when I was at school I used to think that other students were reading my thoughts because they would laugh,smile or frown like they were reading my thoughts I was scared. Even though I knew it was impossible right?

I also sometimes think people are poisoning me I think it is because I watch to much crime shows where people poison other people with arsenic,antifreeze, saccharine etc. I mean I could name all the poisons! So it has made me paranoid when my food taste gross that I'm being poisoned lol. Then I stop eating!

Also this is a creepy one I sometimes hear music in my head. My favourite songs and it is annoying! I think it is maybe because I listen to the songs too much or because I'm sleep deprived.

I don't want to have schizophrenia because my mum says things like ",Stop pulling those crazy schizophreniac faces you look like you are going to murder everyone!" She uses the word schizophrenia for the words crazy and possessed

Also can you have both schizophrenia and aspergers at the same time? And are they linked? Like if you have aspergers your more likely to have schizophrenia?



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23 Jan 2016, 3:35 am

Sounds exactly like OCD. Not schizophrenia.



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23 Jan 2016, 3:39 am

Yigeren wrote:
Sounds exactly like OCD. Not schizophrenia.


Really? Can you have that with OCD?



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23 Jan 2016, 3:53 am

It depends on if you really believe others are hearing your thoughts. If you know that it's irrational, then it's likely just anxiety. Same with fear of poisoning. I've had both of those fears before, but I knew they weren't true. I knew I was being silly, but still had fears.

And music playing in head non-stop is also common in OCD. I frequently have it. Sometimes it's really bad and sometimes it gets better or goes away. Some people will hear the same things repeating in their heads for years.



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23 Jan 2016, 3:55 am

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Yigeren wrote:
It depends on if you really believe others are hearing your thoughts. If you know that it's irrational, then it's likely just anxiety. Same with fear of poisoning. I've had both of those fears before, but I knew they weren't true. I knew I was being silly, but still had fears.

And music playing in head non-stop is also common in OCD. I frequently have it. Sometimes it's really bad and sometimes it gets better or goes away. Some people will hear the same things repeating in their heads for years.


Yeah can you have both OCD and Aspergers and is it common to have both?



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23 Jan 2016, 4:00 am

OCD symptoms and Asperger's symptoms commonly overlap. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether one has OCD separately or just Asperger's. Anxiety by itself can cause these thoughts. So yes, I believe it's possible to have both or symptoms of both. I was first diagnosed with OCD years ago because of symptoms, now I think it was just autism.

If you don't think these things are actually true, then you are likely just having some anxiety that's causing irrational fears. And OCD is also an anxiety disorder.



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23 Jan 2016, 4:05 am

Yigeren wrote:
OCD symptoms and Asperger's symptoms commonly overlap. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether one has OCD separately or just Asperger's. Anxiety by itself can cause these thoughts. So yes, I believe it's possible to have both or symptoms of both. I was first diagnosed with OCD years ago because of symptoms, now I think it was just autism.

If you don't think these things are actually true, then you are likely just having some anxiety that's causing irrational fears. And OCD is also an anxiety disorder.

Okay but I think if I tell anyone I think I have OCD they might think I'm a neat freak because of stereotypes I'm the total opposite I'm a slob



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23 Jan 2016, 4:12 am

OCD doesn't mean someone is a neat freak necessarily. All it means is that a person has anxiety, which leads to obsessions, which leads to compulsions (acting out to relieve anxiety about obsessions, like checking things). Some people only obsess over things and don't have compulsions.

Hoarders have a form of OCD. They're afraid of getting rid of things. They certainly aren't neat.

Common OCD fears:

Fear of contamination

Fear of harming others

Need for symmetry

Fear of things not really being done, like not having locked a door

Fear of something bad happening if something isn't done a certain way

Fear of going crazy



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23 Jan 2016, 4:27 am

Yigeren wrote:
OCD doesn't mean someone is a neat freak necessarily. All it means is that a person has anxiety, which leads to obsessions, which leads to compulsions (acting out to relieve anxiety about obsessions, like checking things). Some people only obsess over things and don't have compulsions.

Hoarders have a form of OCD. They're afraid of getting rid of things. They certainly aren't neat.

Common OCD fears:

Fear of contamination

Fear of harming others

Need for symmetry

Fear of things not really being done, like not having locked a door

Fear of something bad happening if something isn't done a certain way

Fear of going crazy


Now you mention I do need to have my tablet and laptop charged every night or I can't sleep,cry or go crazy because I keep think about itl



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23 Jan 2016, 4:31 am

You may want to get evaluated to see if it fits. Treatment works pretty well for some people. I generally have mine under control now.



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23 Jan 2016, 5:30 pm

Yigeren wrote:
You may want to get evaluated to see if it fits. Treatment works pretty well for some people. I generally have mine under control now.


Yeah I think I fit the symptoms of OCD and Aspergers.



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23 Jan 2016, 5:52 pm

It doesn't sound to me like you have schizophrenia. What you described sounds somewhat normal to me. But if your paranoia is causing problems in your daily life, then you should definitely seek help.



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23 Jan 2016, 5:57 pm

TheAP wrote:
It doesn't sound to me like you have schizophrenia. What you described sounds somewhat normal to me. But if your paranoia is causing problems in your daily life, then you should definitely seek help.


Thank you!



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23 Jan 2016, 6:26 pm

Ocd was what struck me too when i read it. And yes, ocd is a pretty common comorbidity of asd.

If you seek help, which you should, make sure you see a highly respected ocd specialist. Some - even ones who claim it as a specialty, are stuck in misnomers such as being a neat freak and checking the stove are ocd things. Being obsessed that everything you touch contains poison, isn't. And those "specialists" are flat out wrong. A true specialist would know this.

And, keep in mind, many standard shrinks don't understand it either, they just follow a few textbook examples - such as hand washing - and think those are requirements for diagnosis. Ocd is a disease of many faces, so, unless familiar with its broad presentation, it may be hard to recognize.

That said, this is all online and undoubtedly info is missing. Thus there may be more going on than that. However, from what you describe, adding in the songs and panic about the computer.. It's quite possibly "just" ocd. Though you may feel relief, ocd can easily destroy lives on a level of schizophrenia. It can be yet more torturous as the person is aware what they're thinking is crazy, which creates an additional negative spiral and spiral of self-doubt and loss of control.

Recognizing it while young is a very good thing. If it is ocd, you may be able to do cbt with an ocd specialist and get control of it early. Cbt is essentially reprograming your brain by doing things such as intentionally and defiantly drinking that which your mind says contains anti-freeze, but you know it doesn't. It's not easy.

As for your mother, i'm sorry. Mine was the same way and it made everything magnitudes worse as not only was i a dissapointment, i, by definition was the exact same thing she freely mocked. It's quite possible with her, as i learnedf it was with my mother, that this was her own insecurities coming out. So, try not to take it too personally; as hard as that may be.


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23 Jan 2016, 6:46 pm

100000fireflies wrote:
Ocd was what struck me too when i read it. And yes, ocd is a pretty common comorbidity of asd.

If you seek help, which you should, make sure you see a highly respected ocd specialist. Some - even ones who claim it as a specialty, are stuck in misnomers such as being a neat freak and checking the stove are ocd things. Being obsessed that everything you touch contains poison, isn't. And those "specialists" are flat out wrong. A true specialist would know this.

And, keep in mind, many standard shrinks don't understand it either, they just follow a few textbook examples - such as hand washing - and think those are requirements for diagnosis. Ocd is a disease of many faces, so, unless familiar with its broad presentation, it may be hard to recognize.

That said, this is all online and undoubtedly info is missing. Thus there may be more going on than that. However, from what you describe, adding in the songs and panic about the computer.. It's quite possibly "just" ocd. Though you may feel relief, ocd can easily destroy lives on a level of schizophrenia. It can be yet more torturous as the person is aware what they're thinking is crazy, which creates an additional negative spiral and spiral of self-doubt and loss of control.

Recognizing it while young is a very good thing. If it is ocd, you may be able to do cbt with an ocd specialist and get control of it early. Cbt is essentially reprograming your brain by doing things such as intentionally and defiantly drinking that which your mind says contains anti-freeze, but you know it doesn't. It's not easy.

As for your mother, i'm sorry. Mine was the same way and it made everything magnitudes worse as not only was i a dissapointment, i, by definition was the exact same thing she freely mocked. It's quite possible with her, as i learnedf it was with my mother, that this was her own insecurities coming out. So, try not to take it too personally; as hard as that may be.


Yeah that's what I thought about ocd i thought it was being a neat freak and an extreme germaphobe. Because people say things like "I like to keep thing tidy I'm so ocd!" and most media representations of people with ocd have those traits. So I thought that could not be me I'm a slob and could not give a crap about cleanliness and tidiness. Only as much as needed anyway! (To my embrassment)

But now I realizes that I have the other traits associated with OCD so I might have it.

I'm sorry to hear about your mother. My mother sometimes mocks and says mean things too. I don't think she means or realizes it though. I love and loathe her.



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25 Jan 2016, 12:59 am

I sometimes thought people could hear my thoughts & were plotting against me when I was suffering from a psychotic depression. There is a type of Delusional Disorder called Persecutor type where people believe others are planning to harm them that's due to Delusional Disorder & not schizophrenia.


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