Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia?

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02 May 2011, 10:49 am

Exactly. It's pure prejudice, not factual at all. It's the same thing as pointing to one black guy who killed someone and saying that blacks are more likely to be murderers, when in fact if you look at murder statistics, they are exactly the same for whites and blacks. I don't know the specific statistics for child molestation, but I'm willing to bet that if there aren't actually more heterosexual perpetrators than homosexual, it's no more than equal between the two. Gender preference does not equate in any way.



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02 May 2011, 7:34 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Pedophilia frequently being a homosexual act for starters.



LOL



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02 May 2011, 9:56 pm

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I think it's a case of an un-realized assumption that straight sex is "normal," and that all other kinds of sex are the same because they are not straight sex.


I agree with this.



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03 May 2011, 4:07 pm

gailryder17 wrote:
It's a very nonsensical stereotype!
agreed!


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04 May 2011, 9:02 pm

I was sexually abused by older men as a child, but I did not then assume all gay men are pedophiles. I am now one of those gay men, but I do not have a single ounce of sexual interest in children. I believe pedophilia transcends orientation and victimizes both genders equally. It's an impulsive association borne from fear and hate, and it's a real shame.



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06 May 2011, 10:49 pm

gailryder17 wrote:
It's a very nonsensical stereotype!

I think it's related to the news media. Stories like priest molesting alter-boys or scout-leaders molesting the troup got a lot of attention. The controversy Michael Jackson had didn't help or it could be because the old pedophile on Family Guy likes boys & not girls


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09 May 2011, 4:55 pm

Perhaps US is another world, but when I read the news around the globe, what becomes evident is that the great majority of rapists, pedophiles and other sexual offenders are heterosexual guys attacking girls. Because we all know how savage some heterosexual guys can become near girls, we are all overprotective of girls around guys, specially when the guys are older than the girls. Tell me, which responsive parent feels totally in peace knowing their female children is around older males that are known to like females? The society raises boys to become sexual predators, as they are praised when they show alpha male like behavior.

So, in short, who associates gay with pedophilia is brain damaged. It's someone who isn't very good at making associations and doesn't know much about how the brain works.



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10 May 2011, 4:45 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
John_Browning wrote:

It's simpler than that, It's because of the shear number of incidents of sexual abuse that are homosexual acts.


Bull f***ing sh**.


well, I'm glad someone said it. Thanks Tea.


Blame the whiskey. 8O lol

Seriously, though, I'm sick of people pulling that one out of their ass. "We hear about it more on the news" is no way to measure such things, and I've found that's exactly what people like John use to make their laughable assessments.


Well he didn't make it up. I think he was just stating why the ignorance exists. Because some gay men have sexually molested boys so that's how people get that false assumption.

It be like someone asking why do people connect pedophilia with infantilism and I say because people like to dress up as babies and act like it and some people are into treating someone like a baby so people think those who are into it must be turned on by kids so they use adults. If someone wants to say that is BS, it better be directed at the ignorance people make, not at me for explaining where the ignorance comes from.



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10 May 2011, 4:50 pm

League_Girl wrote:
John_Browning wrote:

It's simpler than that, It's because of the shear number of incidents of sexual abuse that are homosexual acts.


Well he didn't make it up. I think he was just stating why the ignorance exists. Because some gay men have sexually molested boys so that's how people get that false assumption.

It be like someone asking why do people connect pedophilia with infantilism and I say because people like to dress up as babies and act like it and some people are into treating someone like a baby so people think those who are into it must be turned on by kids so they use adults. If someone wants to say that is BS, it better be directed at the ignorance people make, not at me for explaining where the ignorance comes from.


Take a better look at what he said. He was not explaining anything. He said people equate the two because there's lots of pedophiles that are gay.

If he was trying to point out the ignorance of such thinking, he would have said much more than that. Instead, he supported the ignorant sentiment that homosexuality = pedophilia.


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10 May 2011, 5:00 pm

OP asked "Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia?" and John Browning answered why. I don't see what else he could have posted to make himself more clear.

Is it a crime now to explain why things are mistaken?



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10 May 2011, 5:23 pm

League_Girl wrote:
OP asked "Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia?" and John Browning answered why. I don't see what else he could have posted to make himself more clear.

Is it a crime now to explain why things are mistaken?


You obviously aren't familiar with the anti-gay rhetoric that John Browning spouts on this forum.



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10 May 2011, 5:27 pm

soulecho wrote:
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OP asked "Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia?" and John Browning answered why. I don't see what else he could have posted to make himself more clear.

Is it a crime now to explain why things are mistaken?


You obviously aren't familiar with the anti-gay rhetoric that John Browning spouts on this forum.


Right.


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12 May 2011, 12:22 pm

What's more, if I'm not mistaken, psychologists differentiate very strongly between, for instance, molesting a male child (if one is male) and homosexuality. Psychologically, pedophilia as a non-normative compulsion is not analogous to a sexual orientation at all.


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12 May 2011, 2:00 pm

A great deal of child molestation is incest. Our media tends to focus on those people who fit the creepy stranger stereotype -- the lone male handing out the free candy, so to speak. Those incidents where it is a socially maladjusted male picking on children he is not related to fit media expectations of what a child molester looks like. He might as well be Snidely Whiplash. But in the real world, villains don't twirl their moustaches and giggle wickedly over their plans. Just as most acts of violence are inflicted between people who know one another, not by random thugs.

The majority of molestation cases are between fathers and daughters. You can call that heterosexual in nature, if you choose to focus on the sex of those involved, rather than the age, or the family relation.



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12 May 2011, 6:33 pm

Sholf wrote:
A great deal of child molestation is incest. Our media tends to focus on those people who fit the creepy stranger stereotype -- the lone male handing out the free candy, so to speak. Those incidents where it is a socially maladjusted male picking on children he is not related to fit media expectations of what a child molester looks like. He might as well be Snidely Whiplash. But in the real world, villains don't twirl their moustaches and giggle wickedly over their plans. Just as most acts of violence are inflicted between people who know one another, not by random thugs.

The majority of molestation cases are between fathers and daughters. You can call that heterosexual in nature, if you choose to focus on the sex of those involved, rather than the age, or the family relation.


This seens to be the case in daily life experience, male to female sexual assault is the norm. So I wonder if those who make assumptions that goes contrary to what experience shows might very weel be showing signs of malfunctioning of their own mental processes that ascertain cause and effect.



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07 Jun 2011, 11:55 am

I don't know how it came about, but the homsexual pedophile stereotype is just... just dumb! And I don't think characters like Herbert the Pervert from family guy help things one bit! :x