About GLBT cinema......

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.....I wonder why 99% of it has to be so damn preachy and melodramatic.

Then the filmmakers usually throw in a couple of explicit sex scenes, just because they can. Most of the gay themed movies that I have seen were little more than skin shows that love to preach to the choir.

I am a gay man, but I really dislike most GLBT cinema. Why can't we have a homosexual equivalent to Scorsese somewhere out there who is being given the bankroll to make a masterpiece?

There are a few good lesbian movies, but most I don't even watch because they are either about affairs, where one or both of the romantic couple are already in a relationship, or they are teacher-student which to me is kinda squicky. I'd really like more lesbian movies where the relationship doesn't involve questionable judgement.

I love Asian gay films and yaoi... Besides straight movies get sexed up too a lot of the time. I like getting to see the nudity. I don't watch any of the American cinema so I don't know about the preaching... I only watch romantic stuff and romantic tragedies. The king and clown didn't have any sexuality in it... But the subtle theme was very nice. I also liked the Boy's love movies, ai no kotodama, and the takumi-kin series.

Yeah, I agree. They seem to be getting better over the years, but still have a ways to go. At least we are pretty much beyond the awful self-hatred of the earliest films like "Boys in the Band".

My "Watch Later" list on iTunes has tons of gay-themed movies, but I rarely watch any of them because of the commonplace melodrama. When I do watch any of them I tend more toward the comedies.

I also think there's this thing where LGBTQ... folks are so starved for something that represents them/us that some will accept ANYTHING as good even if it's absolutely abysmal, just because it's queer. That's the only way I can explain some of the LGBTQ... movies I have seen that have horribly cheesy, cliched, and just plain bad writing, acting, and even filmmaking quality. I'm tired of the same coming-out stories over and over, too, like that's the only important thing LGBTQ... people go through. I want stories where the protagonist just happens to be queer or trans and that doesn't have to be what the whole damn thing is about.

The last gay themed movie I saw involved three main characters these roles:

One lived for sex(the hustler) the other constantly set himself up for sex (the slut) the third was just there to be sexed (the third guy) the end.

And no, it wasn't a porno.

Ugh, tell me about it. I can relate.

I can't stand LGBT theatre because of the way it's portrayed.

It's melodramatic and makes a big issue out of everything. I understand these issues need to be raised, but I didn't pay to watch a PSA, I payed to watch a movie.

I haven't really seen very many lgbt movies.

Brokeback Mountain, Rules of Attraction (which I quite liked), a few movies about gays that happened to be on tv that weren't skin flicks but about coming out etc. Each of them was ok & had it's own bit of value, but I don't recall any particularly great one.

As for masterpieces, there are so many lgbt people in hollywood that chances are many masterpieces have been the work of lgbt people even if the movies didn't have lgbt themes at all. Considering lgbt people are just people like everyone else, then those masterpieces count.

Not sure what a masterpiece of an lgbt movie would be about, nor if I would be interested in seeing it.

Every year there's an lgbt film festival downtown. I've never gone to a single one of these film fest movies. Maaaaaaybe I'll check out the listings this Summer and see if there's one or two I want to check out with some friends. Might see something great, or might confirm that I don't need to care about seeing this kind of stuff. I guess I'll have to give seeing some of it a chance to even form an opinion of whether it's worth watching or not.

Hello

You might try "The Krays", .. the overall movie in itself isn't homosexually-themed but one of the main characters is gay. It was interesting to note that given the period, his orientation wasn't considered to be an issue. In fact there are only two scenes in the movie that even portray homosexual romance - you did mention something ala 'Scorsese'

The 'A Girl Like Me The Gwen Araujo Story' was touching .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jk_lxpW ... S&index=14

Let's remember that LGBT cinema is still a small genre. When content providers are putting together an LGBT selection, they have a much smaller collection from which to draw, which means that more of the schlock is going to be found in there. There are tons of crap films pumped out every week in the DTV and MOTW industries, but they die in the face of better alternatives. LGBT schlock survives
longer because the catalogue is shorter. That being said, I think that there is already a corpus of good, even great, gay cinema out there.

I will leave it to one of the women here to bring a more knowledgeable perspective on lesbian cinema. I am not at all sure that bisexual cinema is well developed yet, but again, I don't think that I am in a good position to judge.

I suggest Lilies, Love! Valour! Compassion! and Edge of Seventeen (for the soundtrack alone!) are all good places to start.

It would be nice if there were more bear flims.

The only one I know is Bear City

If you're down with subtitled foreign films, there's a cute Spanish film from the '00s called Bear Cub.