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08 Dec 2014, 7:21 am

Wut.

As I've said elsewhere, sex is not a single attribute. There's genetic sex, chromosomal sex, genital sex, neurological sex... it is absurd - no, patently false - to claim that a post-op transwoman has a genital sex that is male. So which sex are you talking about when you use the word?



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08 Dec 2014, 9:05 am

ForeignObject... Whenever I read your posts I imagine Ashley Massaro sat being a keyboard :?


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08 Dec 2014, 8:10 pm

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ForeignObject... Whenever I read your posts I imagine Ashley Massaro sat being a keyboard :?

She did WHAT on a keyboard?


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09 Dec 2014, 4:34 am

Dammit AutoCorrect. I meant sat behind a keyboard :?


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09 Dec 2014, 5:11 am

I honestly don't know. On one hand, I find it fascinating. On the other, I can't get past the makeup-looking like drag queens. I would like to get to know someone like that, maybe even intimately. But alas, I know it'll never happen.


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09 Dec 2014, 7:46 am

Wut? Most transwomen don't look like drag queens...



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09 Dec 2014, 7:59 am

At my age I would be looking for a person I could be comfortable with and relate to. Sex wouldn't be a main consideration so any of the sexes would be possible.

My best online friend is a woman who is unfortunately the wrong side of the pond. I do know that she is only real online, and in RL is only seen as a man, but I feel a real closeness to her. We have discussed what might happen if we got together. Would I be able to take him as a boyfriend or would she feel so liberated she would take over?

(I'm a woman and that is how I see myself and how my friends see me. Most of them know I had the misfortune to spend most of my life as a man, but that's in the past.)



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09 Dec 2014, 8:04 am

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Dammit AutoCorrect. I meant sat behind a keyboard :?


Thanks. I found her gorgeous and try to look like her whenever I go out and dress up. If you wanna know what I look like when I go out, just imagine her with a little more body fat and a penis.

(Note: OK, I just wanna say that I have always referred to myself as a transsexual even though I technically don't qualify as one. I never liked the term 'transgendered' and I hardly ever use it to describe myself. Other people never had a problem with me calling myself a transsexual even though I still have a dick. I will transition fully to a female when I get the money. However, if it confuses you or pisses you off, I'll refer to myself as transgendered if it makes you happy.)

By the way, I'm gonna be honest and say that I look like a drag queen. I'm not on any hormones yet, so I tend to look sorta manly


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09 Dec 2014, 8:19 am

I think that's just definitions; as far as I'm concerned the Trans term can and should apply to anyone in the process, whether that be the start or end, or at any point in between, surely? I guess it boils down to whatever you're comfortable with; from what (little) I know about this side of things, it's more about the terms that could be interpreted as offensive - like the use of "half-cast" to describe someone of mixed race. I gather the term 'Shemale' is not a popular name in the TS community?


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09 Dec 2014, 8:47 am

My personal thoughts: "unlikely".
The core reason is that I dislike being with/around someone that places far too much emphasis on some aspect of themselves, that is trying to be something or someone that doesn't come totally natural to them. This applies to all sorts of people, on all sorts of aspects - not just gender. Having been around a few transgender individuals, the topic of their being transgender is way too pervasive in our conversations for me to ever think of them as someone I want to be around. Same applies to investment bankers, artists, and politicians.


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09 Dec 2014, 2:52 pm

Yep I'm pansexual so I don't care what anybody's gender is as long as I like their personality :)



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09 Dec 2014, 7:27 pm

badgerface wrote:
I think that's just definitions; as far as I'm concerned the Trans term can and should apply to anyone in the process, whether that be the start or end, or at any point in between, surely? I guess it boils down to whatever you're comfortable with; from what (little) I know about this side of things, it's more about the terms that could be interpreted as offensive - like the use of "half-cast" to describe someone of mixed race. I gather the term 'Shemale' is not a popular name in the TS community?

The terms "Tranny" and "Ladyboy" aren't popular, either.


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10 Dec 2014, 4:51 am

I can understand that.


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10 Dec 2014, 7:58 pm

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I can understand that.

I don't mind "queer" as much as some do because I let close friends and family call me that, but "fa***t" is another one that I don't like. I've called other friends queer and they have done the same. It's like other black people using the n-word. How bout you?


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11 Dec 2014, 6:08 am

There's a massive list of terms and names for people, based on their sexuality, race, religion etc that could be interpreted as offensive. I think the word "offensive" itself is subjective, and way over-used generally speaking, but with relevance to this topic, I think that names like 'f****t' mainly just serve to display the ignorance and low intelligence of the person using them. I like the use of these sort of words by the section of society, and the ownership they take of them; as you say, black people using the N word - it takes the power away from the ignorant who would use it as a derogatory term. It's like "F-you", this is our word.

I struggle to understand how someone can find a word offensive, it's just a word. It's about the context of how it's said, and the circumstances around it's use.


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11 Dec 2014, 7:59 am

badgerface wrote:
There's a massive list of terms and names for people, based on their sexuality, race, religion etc that could be interpreted as offensive. I think the word "offensive" itself is subjective, and way over-used generally speaking, but with relevance to this topic, I think that names like 'f****t' mainly just serve to display the ignorance and low intelligence of the person using them. I like the use of these sort of words by the section of society, and the ownership they take of them; as you say, black people using the N word - it takes the power away from the ignorant who would use it as a derogatory term. It's like "F-you", this is our word.

I struggle to understand how someone can find a word offensive, it's just a word. It's about the context of how it's said, and the circumstances around it's use.


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Like you said, it's the context of how it is used that makes it offensive.


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