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pawelk1986
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11 Jan 2016, 3:00 pm

People say that gay is ok, but for me it a sin :-(

Does you can help me interpret this result

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11 Jan 2016, 4:45 pm

I don't think an online quiz can tell you what your orientation is, it is more complicated than that. However, it really is okay to be gay. If you are going off of the bible, the parts where it refers to homosexuality being bad is actually a mistranslation, I think it was originally talking about pedophillia or something like that. Also, many other things that the bible says is a sin is done commonly by many christians, such as wearing clothes with mixed fabrics. The bible (and other religious texts) were written by humans, and will not always contain what your god actually wants. Idk if you are christian but that is what I know the most about. It is ok to be any orientation and you have to look inside of yourself and notice your behavior in order to know what it is.


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14 Jan 2016, 11:07 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
People say that gay is ok, but for me it a sin :-(


Homosexuality/LGBT is not a choice. Being gay/LGBT is part of the normal range of human sexuality. It is rooted in biology (your nature is gay/LGBT or it is not). It is not a result of 'upbringing', 'socialisation' or sexual molestation as a child. And people who act on the belief that it is, very often end up doing great harm, wittingly or not.

Religion (god, or even God with a capital) is something which only lives in the intersubjective memory of people. In simple, clear and straightforward language: religion (god/gods/God) is an invention of man, a man-made construction. Homosexuality has nothing to do with it, 'cause it is of a biological nature (you are born as a gay/LGBT or not).

AMEN! : :D



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21 Jan 2016, 9:33 am

You love whom you love. Besides, God is love, so loving whom you love is okay as long as it's not negative. :D :heart:


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22 Jan 2016, 10:43 am

Being gay is not a choice, as I'm sure you've figured out by your own experience.

So if God hates a group of people for something they can't help, I think that suggests that God is evil rather than saying anything about gay people.

I'm atheist mainly out of optimism, because if God existed, I would be terrified of Him.



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22 Jan 2016, 10:52 am

^I guess it depends on which God you mean: a fearful, terrible God who punishes all the time, or a gentle, loving God who is compassionate all the time.


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06 Mar 2016, 11:07 pm

Over time, almost all religions have eventually determined that sin must be based on free will and the choice to be something. That goes well past choosing to perform any specific behavior. It's been clear for at least 15 years that sexualities are neurological, endocrine-based (eg which pheromones someone reacts to), visual - and have a strong genetic component (no, it's not likely a single 'gay' gene will be found; the development of the pertinent brain locations in utero is far more complex than say, the development of eye color).

Two thousand years ago, epilepsy was thought to be possession by demons. In some parts of the world, mental illnesses such as bipolar and even tinnitus are *still* believed to be caused by moral failings and therefore are signs of sin. As was/is albinism (albino-ism), dwarfism and other atypical developments. Funny thing is, from all current findings, sexuality is the *normal* development of very specific brain locations - it just happens in the direction opposite that expected based on birth assigned sex & internal gender identity.

Point is, there is no choice or free will in being gay. And it's a false argument when religious leaders then try to slide the argument to "choosing to engage in gay behavior". Strongest reason is because God (Yaweh, Allah, etc) made the person that way & so to *choose* not fulfill the design that deity had for them would indeed be a sin in most religions.

And anyway, this all stems from Abrahamic religions needing to enforce that men are superior to women, but that's another discussion altogether....


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07 Mar 2016, 10:24 am

There's nothing morally wrong with being of an alternative sexuality from heterosexuality.

There's nothing morally wrong with heterosexuality, either.

I don't really like seeing guys kissing in the street--but I don't deny them the right to do so.



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07 Mar 2016, 10:27 am

^Thank you! :cheers:

I, for one, am an asexual lesbian, and lots of people say that I am one of the sweetest people. Does that mean there's something wrong with me? Not at all. It only means that I am different, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Never let people's negative perceptions of you change who you are or allow them to change you.


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07 Mar 2016, 10:54 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
There's nothing morally wrong with being of an alternative sexuality from heterosexuality.

There's nothing morally wrong with heterosexuality, either.

I don't really like seeing guys kissing in the street--but I don't deny them the right to do so.


This is the opposite of me, because I do not like the view kissing people, whether homo or heterosexual, it's so sweet that make my want to vomit :twisted:



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10 Apr 2016, 12:37 pm

The only thing wrong here is that you believe that homosexuality is a sin and that's causing you anxiety and depression.

You believe it because of the age old systems of control instituted by religion. Good ol' dogma and indoctrination. Someone told you it's a sin, you believed and developed your moral code around their rules.

Change your belief about homosexuality and magically with a perspective shift you'll think and feel entirely different about the exact same thing. You may be more neutrally self accepting, or perhaps even become even self loving about it.

Stop believing what other people tell you & start believing what you know and feel is right for yourself. Life is much much better that way.


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