Trans without having Gender dysphoria?
ThatOneWhiteKnight
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Bradleigh wrote:
ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
Hi Bradleigh
I usually identify and depend on what I feel like I should be. I sometimes ironically want to experience dysphoria to give me a little bit of direction in my journey to becoming what I am supposed to be.
Some things online have either confused or encouraged me with what I prefer to have in my design. I wouldn't exactly want to be considered a transtrender. I sometimes have slight gender dysphoria when it comes to parts of my body and improper use of names, seeing as I've not fully come out to my family.
I don't know for sure which term I'd use under the non-binary umbrella, but for sure it's somewhere under there. I use they/them pronouns as stated in my description of my profile.
Thank you for your reply.
I usually identify and depend on what I feel like I should be. I sometimes ironically want to experience dysphoria to give me a little bit of direction in my journey to becoming what I am supposed to be.
Some things online have either confused or encouraged me with what I prefer to have in my design. I wouldn't exactly want to be considered a transtrender. I sometimes have slight gender dysphoria when it comes to parts of my body and improper use of names, seeing as I've not fully come out to my family.
I don't know for sure which term I'd use under the non-binary umbrella, but for sure it's somewhere under there. I use they/them pronouns as stated in my description of my profile.
Thank you for your reply.
I unfortunately am not sure how much of what you have written on your profile is showing up publicly, since I can't see anything about pronouns on it.
I myself don't really know what I would be under non-binary; it could be bigender, it could be genderfluid, I am not sure. All I know is that I too feel different at different times. Totally understand the occasional thought that dysphoria would help have a more definitive idea of how to go.
Mentioning "transtrender" there is a particular video by internet queen ContraPoints called Transtrenders, I can't quite remember what impact it had on me, but ContraPoints is great.
I just watched the video
I'm rather new to the website, so I don't know how the profile management works.
I've always rather based my idea off of my feelings, dysphoria and/or basing it off of a fictional character. I recently have come to a certain identity that can't exactly be explained with anything under the umbrella, but I assume that it's out there somewhere.
The video started off rather entertaining but upset me later on because I, of course, could possibly not know if what is said will end up being able to be taken seriously or as a joke, but it was overall entertaining.
I'd suggest that we rather move this conversation elsewhere, such as PMs/DMs and/or another platform or social media.
This post had to, unfortunately, be retyped, because the website disables me from using links when I quoted your message, due to the fact that I'm but an egg. It might not be as precise as what the original message was, but it's about close as it gets.
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Bradleigh
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ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
The video started off rather entertaining but upset me later on because I, of course, could possibly not know if what is said will end up being able to be taken seriously or as a joke, but it was overall entertaining.
I have seen it explained that one might at first read the non-binary character as ridiculous, being typified as a "transtrender", but as it went on one might find themselves switching opinions where the self identified transsexual actually has a whole lot of baggage and is trying to justify her dysphoria by projecting onto Baltimore and trying to make other people miserable for just trying to figure themselves out. Of course there are jokes to it, but overall I think there is a message of not let other people decide how you define yourself, and I particularly like the part about them asking why feeling bad should be used to define ourselves instead of feeling good.
If you want to move this discussion to another topic because the majority of this topic is from two years ago, you are welcome to start a New Topic in the LGBT section. I know that I started a topic when I was putting m thoughts about my gender, the topic's name is "Do I have a different gender identity?" currently on the third page of the section, and created another one just recently called "Repressed or Forced", where I was trying to put my more recent revelations that I might be bi, but a little unsure if I have been repressed for some time or maybe forcing myself in reevaluating my gender. I don't know want to inset your experiences in there, or a new topic if you want it more fresh to yourself. Or PM me if you want it more private, but I think more open allows other people to add in their opinions and share experiences. It is up to what you are comfortable with.
I am not entirely sure what you meant by an identity that "can't exactly be explained under the umbrella", are you able to elaborate?
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ThatOneWhiteKnight
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Bradleigh wrote:
I have seen it explained that one might at first read the non-binary character as ridiculous, being typified as a "transtrender", but as it went on one might find themselves switching opinions where the self identified transsexual actually has a whole lot of baggage and is trying to justify her dysphoria by projecting onto Baltimore and trying to make other people miserable for just trying to figure themselves out. Of course there are jokes to it, but overall I think there is a message of not let other people decide how you define yourself, and I particularly like the part about them asking why feeling bad should be used to define ourselves instead of feeling good.
If you want to move this discussion to another topic because the majority of this topic is from two years ago, you are welcome to start a New Topic in the LGBT section. I know that I started a topic when I was putting m thoughts about my gender, the topic's name is "Do I have a different gender identity?" currently on the third page of the section, and created another one just recently called "Repressed or Forced", where I was trying to put my more recent revelations that I might be bi, but a little unsure if I have been repressed for some time or maybe forcing myself in reevaluating my gender. I don't know want to inset your experiences in there, or a new topic if you want it more fresh to yourself. Or PM me if you want it more private, but I think more open allows other people to add in their opinions and share experiences. It is up to what you are comfortable with.
I am not entirely sure what you meant by an identity that "can't exactly be explained under the umbrella", are you able to elaborate?
If you want to move this discussion to another topic because the majority of this topic is from two years ago, you are welcome to start a New Topic in the LGBT section. I know that I started a topic when I was putting m thoughts about my gender, the topic's name is "Do I have a different gender identity?" currently on the third page of the section, and created another one just recently called "Repressed or Forced", where I was trying to put my more recent revelations that I might be bi, but a little unsure if I have been repressed for some time or maybe forcing myself in reevaluating my gender. I don't know want to inset your experiences in there, or a new topic if you want it more fresh to yourself. Or PM me if you want it more private, but I think more open allows other people to add in their opinions and share experiences. It is up to what you are comfortable with.
I am not entirely sure what you meant by an identity that "can't exactly be explained under the umbrella", are you able to elaborate?
I would say that I get rather scared at the thought of the video leading to a direction where it makes you feel invalidated, because of it bringing in a character that addresses their opinion and it comes off as transphobic, but of course, that's how the character was portrayed, but it still becomes slightly unsettling at times. I was probably mostly entertained with the part where she pulls out a popsicle mid-conversation.
I personally have mostly thought that the dysphoria people are always using as an excuse to invalidate those who come off as trenders. You usually have to be more specific on which kind of dysphoria you have.
I just felt like moving the conversation seeing as we got to discussing something that didn't exactly fit the post. I'd probably want to speak in a more private environment because I 'd probably be more comfortable where there are no interruptions.
Also - I consider myself to be non-binary, but I don't have a term chosen under the umbrella as yet. I think that I come close to being either neither, both or nothing of the sort. My inspiration came from certain fictional characters that aren't exactly described to be non-binary but is portrayed to be able to be fluid or they don't have a current identity that falls under the gender binary, but they are possibly canonically known to be either cis-male or cis-female.
I don't really want to come off as trending or as a transtrender. I just want to be comfortable with life and what it has to offer.
Also, I don't think the profile editing page is too easily navigated, but that's mostly because my age can't be displayed and I don't know how the biography section works.
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ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
I would say that I get rather scared at the thought of the video leading to a direction where it makes you feel invalidated, because of it bringing in a character that addresses their opinion and it comes off as transphobic, but of course, that's how the character was portrayed, but it still becomes slightly unsettling at times. I was probably mostly entertained with the part where she pulls out a popsicle mid-conversation.
I think that the point of bringing the popsicle out was to show that despite being the host she was actually rather disinterested in the actual conversation, to that you could possibly read some under the surface transphobia that the type of person the hostess is shouldn't be who transgender people should be trying to appeal to. If you watch more of her videos I think that you might see more of the unsettling feelings where I think that she can make her characters feel so ridiculous, yet also too real in making you feel kind of uncomfortable. Also a certain often ironic elements to her characters and costumes.
ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
I personally have mostly thought that the dysphoria people are always using as an excuse to invalidate those who come off as trenders. You usually have to be more specific on which kind of dysphoria you have.
You can find people who think that it you must not be one if you don't have it like they do, and I hold empathy for them over it but it doesn't invalidate how we feel.
ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
I just felt like moving the conversation seeing as we got to discussing something that didn't exactly fit the post. I'd probably want to speak in a more private environment because I 'd probably be more comfortable where there are no interruptions.
You are free to message me, which can be done by clicking on my profile. It is pretty late where I am though so don't be surprised if I don't reply for a while. I also admit that my Asperger's makes me pretty self concious of more private things, I am always the worst at messaging others because I always worry about bothering other people.
ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
Also - I consider myself to be non-binary, but I don't have a term chosen under the umbrella as yet. I think that I come close to being either neither, both or nothing of the sort. My inspiration came from certain fictional characters that aren't exactly described to be non-binary but is portrayed to be able to be fluid or they don't have a current identity that falls under the gender binary, but they are possibly canonically known to be either cis-male or cis-female.
I don't really want to come off as trending or as a transtrender. I just want to be comfortable with life and what it has to offer.
I don't really want to come off as trending or as a transtrender. I just want to be comfortable with life and what it has to offer.
I am personally impressed by people that have things figured out that they can just point under the non-binary umbrella. The closest I have come is to describe like the movie Inside Out, how we see every other person's emotions genders as being a single gender, except the main character who is like a mix of genders, not that I would tie it to particular emotions. In terms of as an anime viewer I also enjoy a good deal of ambiguous characters, even if there is probably no actual intention.
I was and still am immersed by this one meme where Nintendo characters are given a Super Crown to turn them into Princess Peach versions of the character, for even stranger reasons some of the Chain Chomp Princesses especially spoke to me, have no idea what that says about me.
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ThatOneWhiteKnight wrote:
I personally have mostly thought that the dysphoria people are always using as an excuse to invalidate those who come off as trenders. You usually have to be more specific on which kind of dysphoria you have.
I don't know what to frick I meant by this, because this ain't English-, but it do be like that sometimes. I think that I thought that dysphoria is something created by people who choose it, but it really just depends on which dysphoria it is. Sometimes you have to create your own dysphoria I think, but maybe that's only how it works for me. If anyone believes that I'm acting disrespectful, they can tell me.
Next message I'll be sending will be through Private Messages/Direct Messages.
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