Gay Aspergers !

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Ocean liners, cruise ships, ferries.

sometimes i wish i were gay tbh, i find it much easier talking to guys than girls

Hi Doug. Yeah, i like big ships like that also. the classic era ocean liners. I dont like cruise ships so much. What else do you do in Long Island? Do you go out? what do you like to do on weekends?


Hi To,

Interesting train of thought. I don't think Ive ever heard anyone wish they were gay. Have you tried being friends with a gay person? I sometimes think Id even like to be close to a woman just to feel that incredible feeling that comes from two people in sync. Maybe you and I are a little scared of women because they are usually much more emotional and that puts a whole uncomfortable spin on things. I know its too much for me. Maybe thats what you mean by wanting to be gay? The more I delve into the world of ASD it seems that these very cerebral thoughts about sexuality are common. I find it fascinating because NT people just see it one way or the other and then torture you for it if your not "normal". I dont know if its genetic or ive conditioned myself but I do like to touch another man or be close physically. Thats the easy part. Its getting through to the friedship, the love and making a connection with someone that I find so heartbreaking and difficult. Im so scared sometimes to even try to be friends with someone because they just seemt to walk away.

i know what your talking about billy. I have a fair amount of friends (altho only a couple of close ones) and they've all known about the aspergers for awhile but only recently started hearing about the whole gay thing. Now they're all divided on the issue with all of them saying to do whatever makes you happy but most not believing that I'm actually gay and rather either think SO MUCH and OBSESS SO MUCH that I have now convinced myself that i'm gay and it's an obsession or just feel that part of social "retardation" is not understanding the difference between people and therefore men and women and not realize that I'm actually straight. But i thought about it alot and definitely enjoy guys more than girls...but only time will tell for sure

Come over to our side then.

(joke)

I know some girls who get along better with guys (i.e. they think the way guys are supposed to); so maybe you can find one.


There are some cruise ships I like. Old liners are my favorite but as far as real life, I will take a cruise ship over nothing, as the ocean liner era is really mostly over and has been since about 1975.


My life mostly revolves around school and the Internet. I hang out at home on the weekends, generally.


I am not sure what that feeling is, but if you could feel it with a woman, why couldn't you with a man?


Yes. Lots of people on here seem to think more about their sexuality than other people do. I think neurotypicals tend to just "do" more, without accompanying it with so much thought.

I am, not surprisingly, the sort of person who needs to analyze everything ... so that goes for sexuality too.

I find the mainstream ideas about sexual orientation to be far too simplistic.

I am definitely only attracted to men, but there are many variables beyond that - the nature of the attraction, how strong it is, etc. To try to define sexual orientation just by which sex(es) you're attracted to is ridiculously simplistic. But I suppose we humans (perhaps paradoxically, ASD people maybe even more than other humans) like categorizing things and the fact that everyone's sexuality is a little different doesn't make for good categories.


I think it's rather condescending of them to think you can't know whether or not you're gay, or you can't tell the difference between males and females.

If you like men better than women you are at the very least bi but more attracted to men than women. You're obviously not straight.

I think perhaps if you do not come off the way gay people are stereotypically expected to, people may try to search for another explanation or not believe you - though as I said, it is really condescending for people to act the way it seems like they are towards you.

btw you still get the rare ocean liner, the QM2

Indeed. And having had the pleasure of sailing in her (and being about to do so again), a fine ship she is too.

There is also this which a friend of mine has just come back from. I would also consider the Hurtigruten ships coastal liners (not ocean liners, since they don't cross oceans).

So the ocean liner is not totally extinct, just rare.

Those cruises sound interesting if you can get to norway. does every aspie have rich parents? jeesh. I tried to visit the SS United States in Philly awhile back. I heard there were tours but when i got there last year it was all fenced off. It was still fantastic to really see it. It towers over everything and all you see at first are giant sureal smokestacks. It looks unreal. I also wish i could find out what is happening to the Nomadic in England.
I went to the new york meet up today and it was nice. I really like trying to socialize with other aspies. The guys were all straight it seemed. The 2 girls left and thee guys started talking about dates and sex. I guess they dont really know how to get any. Not bad looking some of them either. I guess its harder to get with women. I dont have too much trouble getting sex because a man will do it no matter what. My problems are the emotional fallout and sometimes Im too logical and wondering if im actually enjoying this while its happening. While thinking about this Ill be damned if they all didnt all turn to me and ask about my dating life. I was a little nervous and suprised how quickly i answered. I just described similar experiences and frustrations but without gender. So I did not lie and I dont think they know either way. I guess I dont want to have people dislike me over something so stupid. They were a great group of guys though. I would like to meet gay aspies one day. It seems to be a very rare thing. So far I am enjoying exploring this whole new world. I feel like im descending into an alternate world like in TRON. I also have newfound excitement over other movie characters such as V-ger in Star Trek and also HAL 2000 in that he could not lie and when he did he went crazy. I still marvel at the ease with which people lie... I still sweat if someone asks how im doing. Im going to a Grasp meeting next week and they added a GLBT chat room all our own. Later guys...

ive noticed a lot of str8 aspie males get really hung up about sex, like its some hugely important thing. which fair enough i can say sex isnt a big deal because for us its not really a big problem to come by. the gay world is full of random anoymous sex with no touchy feely crap afterwards. the actual dating bit is the bit we all seem to be utterly useless at but why they would want to just sit and talk about thats kind of stuff with relative strangers on a meet up seems a bit weird to me

As far as I know it is nearly impossible to get on board.

She is a very sad sight - basically the ruins of a ship, though of course one can still get an idea of what once was.


She's in Belfast, Northern Ireland (not England) and as far as I know, still in the process of being restored. When that is projected to be finished, I have no idea ... restoring old ships is ... well, have you ever heard the expression, "A boat is a hole in the water in which to throw money?" That pretty much sums it up.

Incidentally it is pretty interesting that you are interested in ocean liners, because (while this is something I have been interested in since age 4, waaay before I had any idea I was gay or what gayness was), it is a hobby with what seems to me a disproportionately high number of gay men in it.


What meet-up is that? I wasn't aware of one. Glad it was nice though.


As far as I know it is nearly impossible to get on board.

She is a very sad sight - basically the ruins of a ship, though of course one can still get an idea of what once was.


She's in Belfast, Northern Ireland (not England) and as far as I know, still in the process of being restored. When that is projected to be finished, I have no idea ... restoring old ships is ... well, have you ever heard the expression, "A boat is a hole in the water in which to throw money?" That pretty much sums it up.


This is not the first time I've seen it said on here that it is easy for gay guys to get sex (as long as it is only sex). Not something I know much about or am terribly interested in.


I guess if you have a high sex drive and aren't getting any it is pretty important.

I guess if you have a high sex drive and aren't getting any it is pretty important. [/quote]

well being gay and in a city thats a tad on the liberal side of things (too bloody hippy and liberal if you ask me) and full of poofs thats not really an issue ive encountered.

i guess isnt an issue if you can have it if you want it whenever. does the str8 world not have anything like gaydar and other sites and such?

I have no idea.

*joins in*

Hi

Rik

whats on your mind? Tell us. Bill

Nothing really, just wanted to join in but wasn't sure how lol.
What is the purpose of this thread, what is the general discussion?

I think it just started out as how gay affects people with aspergers... If your gay how do handle it? If not, what do you think? I want to hear about everything in between also... Start a new topic if youd like. Bill