Gender is a spook.

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Knock-off the transphobic sh_t.

Now.

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Nephets, a major factor in why suicide rates among transpeople is so high is the societal discrimination they face. Exactly the people like you who go out of their way to ridicule transpeople.

I comprehend your feelings for "ze" but I can't understand why you so strongly resist using singular they. It's centuries old, part of common vernacular, and I suspect you might use it very often, without even noticing, to refer to people whose gender you don't know, unless you very specifically remember to say the bulky and inconvenient (and obviously exclusionary) "he or she" every time. The majority of people use singular they casually and naturally. I think it's the easiest way nonbinary people can possibly ask to be referred as, so I take the active refusal to do so as a sign of active disrespect.

The suicide rate amongst post-operative transsexuals is significantly lower than people suffering from untreated gender dysphoria (GD), albeit higher than people who've never suffered from GD. According to NHS England, the treatment for GD is extremely effective. Source: https://www.bmj.com/content/352/bmj.i1694

As others have pointed out, the difference between the suicide rate amongst cisgender and (post-operative) transgender people is because of discrimination and hatred - from people like you, for example.

The evidence does not show than being trans is inherently the cause of the suicides, or that the GD surgeries don't help. If I were to compare quality of life (QoL) amongst cancer survivors to a healthy control group (with no comparison made to current cancer sufferers) and found that the QoL for cancer survivors was lower, would that be evidence that cancer treatments don't help?

Last edited by Dataunit on 03 May 2018, 4:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

This is what a psychologist called John Money said in the '70s: that gender is only learned and that we act the way we do because we've been taught to. Thus, according to Money, if we were to castrate a boy shortly after birth and raise him up as a girl, and never tell him what happened, then he will grow up a normal, feminine girl and never feel any dysphoria.

What a shame the David Reimer experiment ended in suicide. Such a pity when such a lovely theory is pitted against empirical evidence in the form of lived experience.

glad we got back on track this almost turned into a right wing circle jerk