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24 Jun 2009, 2:49 pm

Bijou_Jewel wrote:
Gay relationships then?
what about them? what are they like?



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24 Jun 2009, 4:34 pm

I wouldn't know lolz


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24 Jun 2009, 5:28 pm

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Do you see any similarities and/or differences in gay AS/NT relationships vs. straight AS/NT relationships?

I have no idea. I have never knowingly seen either one.



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24 Jun 2009, 9:54 pm

Hey I have a question for everyone. I guess it's kind of personal so you don't have to answer if you don't want.

If we were all playing baseball...(do you get where I'm going with this?) would you want to pitch or catch. Maybe I shouldn't use a metaphor. Are you a top or bottom?

I'll start. bottom.



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24 Jun 2009, 11:56 pm

I think my relationships have been pretty normal. In regards to my AS my last boyfriend at least was very understanding with it and was actually very good at comforting me if I had any issues. I've done both bottoming and being on top, but I think I prefer bottom slightly.



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25 Jun 2009, 2:54 am

dustintorch wrote:
If we were all playing baseball...(do you get where I'm going with this?) would you want to pitch or catch. Maybe I shouldn't use a metaphor. Are you a top or bottom?


When I engage in that type of sexual activity I tend to be a top. I have bottomed on occasion, but there has to be a very high level of trust to do that. But I also have odd perceptions and what I will or won't do in or out of a relationship when it comes to sex. Even sex in general I have issues with.



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25 Jun 2009, 10:19 am

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Do people think there is a link with Aspergers and homosexuality?
Maybe people find it easier to get closer to a person of the same sex?


Well, I am unsure. But I read something about this question on a swedish site, and they but it like this (and I apologize for the bad translation, I didn´t translate it myself - I let Google Translate do it):

"HETERO, HOMO, BI OR TRANS

People with Asperger's syndrome thinking differently. A positive effect of that is that they generally do not add moral aspects of sex. Social conventions and constraints get them. They fantasize and act on the basis of their internal lusts regardless of whether those of a person of the same or opposite sex.

There is no scientific evidence that people with Asperger syndrome is homo-, bi-or trans-sexual, more than the normal population. However, there is evidence that it is so.

In `Éloge de la diversité sexuelle´ (Tribute to the sexual diversity, 1999) condemns Michel Dorais sexual fundamentalism. Dorais teaches social work at Université Laval in Quebec, Canada. In his book he makes the interpreter for all those who do not fit into society's notions of what is normal.

Welcome sexual diversity

Michel Dorais message is that sexual diversity should be recognized and welcomed. He writes:

`Never has the body and the physical appearance has been so highly rated ... and yet, more and more people are experiencing sexual ambiguity. Feminine boys, masculine girls, androgyner, transvestites, transsexuals, hermaphrodite and all those for which identity is much more than a question of standards. Individuals are taking precedence, with their stories, experiences and peculiarities. Why try to catch them in a sexual standard?´

The description is also in many with Asperger's syndrome. They are attracted first by the foremost of a person's personality and qualities. If there is a man or woman has no meaning. They regard themselves as bisexual, gay or sexually ambivalent, that is, preference-free. Homo-and hetero sexual behavior exist simultaneously. Fantasy revolves around the sexual situation, not the partner's gender.
On the whole characterized aspergares sex life of openness and flexibility.

Dual exclusion

Back of the coin is that broadmindedness unit in terms of sexual diversity can be an additional burden in a society permeated by the hetero norm. To have Asperger's syndrome and abnormal sexuality involves a double alienation.

The report on sexual orientation and disability, Sisu 2005, states the researcher Ulrika Dahl stated that there is hardly any comprehensive knowledge of how the situation looks from the people who have a disability and is homo-, bi-, or transsexuals, LGBT. The issue of sexual orientation have been made invisible in the disability movement, and awareness of disability has been absent in the LGBT movement.

Disability research has assumed a heterosexual norm, while the research on sexual diversity assumed that LGBT people have no disability. Both LGBT people and people with disabilities are sometimes treated badly because they deviate from the norm. Omegnen can not see the whole person. Of LGBT people, many just and sexuality of the disabled people can see the only impairment. In simple terms, the perception of LGBT people sexfixerad and the perception of disabled sexblind. In the meeting with a person who is both LGBT and disabled, these views clash with the very bad treatment as a result.

It goes forward. Participation of persons with disabilities has increased and attitudes towards LGBT people has improved in recent years. Although knowledge situation is becoming better, "says Ulrika Dahl. Research on the intersection between the heterosexual norm and the norm of how the body to function begins to emerge."

For you outthere who can read swedish, you find the text right here: http://www.autismforum.se/gn/opencms/we ... ler_trans/

I know that it is a long text, but I find it quite interesting. What do you say?



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25 Jun 2009, 1:51 pm

Good article, it does bring good ideas into the pool.

As for what I'd like (still a virgin, so nada on real experience, just my opinions based off what I think it will be like), I'd be a bottom. Only time I'd be a top would be if my partner were to desire it. I prefer to please my partner than have any real preference of my own. If he gets indecisive though, I might just attack, lol. It's either make a decision, or I'll make it for you. :p



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25 Jun 2009, 2:04 pm

Daniel09 wrote:
Good article, it does bring good ideas into the pool.

As for what I'd like (still a virgin, so nada on real experience, just my opinions based off what I think it will be like), I'd be a bottom. Only time I'd be a top would be if my partner were to desire it. I prefer to please my partner than have any real preference of my own. If he gets indecisive though, I might just attack, lol. It's either make a decision, or I'll make it for you. :p


Thanks. There is more interesting articles about Asperger and sexuality on the same site, let me know if you want to read another one. :)



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30 Jun 2009, 11:23 am

What do you guys think about the whole Gay marriage thing. Do you think you'd like to get married someday?



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30 Jun 2009, 11:53 am

I don't think marriage is as all important as it is made out to be. There is, however, a problem with the system. Sure, 2 people can get a civil union, but that's still not the same as a marriage. What needs to be done is to have a new law passed that would make legal unions possible, having the same previous benefits and such as marriage, but under a banner that is not influenced by religion. Religion needs to be separated from state, and marriages continue to bind them together no matter what. People can still get married at the same time as acquire the legal union, but religious union will not be considered an actual part of the legal system.



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30 Jun 2009, 1:10 pm

Daniel09 wrote:
I don't think marriage is as all important as it is made out to be. There is, however, a problem with the system. Sure, 2 people can get a civil union, but that's still not the same as a marriage. What needs to be done is to have a new law passed that would make legal unions possible, having the same previous benefits and such as marriage, but under a banner that is not influenced by religion. Religion needs to be separated from state, and marriages continue to bind them together no matter what. People can still get married at the same time as acquire the legal union, but religious union will not be considered an actual part of the legal system.


I'm exactly on the same page here. :)



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30 Jun 2009, 4:17 pm

Bijou_Jewel wrote:
Daniel09 wrote:
I don't think marriage is as all important as it is made out to be. There is, however, a problem with the system. Sure, 2 people can get a civil union, but that's still not the same as a marriage. What needs to be done is to have a new law passed that would make legal unions possible, having the same previous benefits and such as marriage, but under a banner that is not influenced by religion. Religion needs to be separated from state, and marriages continue to bind them together no matter what. People can still get married at the same time as acquire the legal union, but religious union will not be considered an actual part of the legal system.


I'm exactly on the same page here. :)


Me too. . And what an interesting book this book this could turn out to be. It's what we need.


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30 Jun 2009, 5:01 pm

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What do you guys think about the whole Gay marriage thing. Do you think you'd like to get married someday?


Im not homosexual, but I have friends who is. I can´t see something wrong with, because there´s this thing called love and who are we if we say that they can´t have a ceremony to demonstrate their love to each other.
And there´s a democratic aspect as well, why shouldn´t they have the same ceremony as heterosexual couples? Why must me make difference, just because they have another sexual orientation?

I can´t see the difference. Love is beutiful, and I think it´s a thing that we should be careful with instead of blaiming it and judge peoples feelings and choice. So, no, I´m not bothered by it.

Well, this thing about getting married...I don´t mind it, but I think it could be just as beutiful to promise each other to be faithful without a big ceremony. And before I come to that question, I must find someone I have deep feelings for. One day I might have a more detailed answer on that... :wink:


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07 Jul 2009, 2:20 am

And the thread is now dead.

**zap!!**



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08 Jul 2009, 3:36 am

darkfire627 wrote:
What do you guys think about the whole Gay marriage thing. Do you think you'd like to get married someday?

I'd get married for the legal benefits and also because there is somehow something nice about exercising a right you've recently won.

I think it's important for same-sex couples to have the right to marry simply because opposite-sex couples can do it too. Whether or not you actually want to do it is your business, of course.

Bijou_Jewel wrote:
And the thread is now dead.

Apparently it has the ability to come back from the dead, then.