Agree or disagree: Transgender should be a medical condition

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13 Jun 2013, 5:53 am

Actually, I'm with mljt in that I like to think of gender dysphoria as being the direct result of a type of intersex condition. Yes, currently intersex conditions refer to a discrepancy between gender genotype and phenotype, but I think it's interesting that people don't think of the brain itself as a physical thing, rather than just a mental one.

The brain is a physical object, with physical sets of instructions that manifest as what we like to call 'mental disorders.'

A typical person's brain is gendered based on the same set of instructions that resulted in their biological sex. The XX or XY chromosomes instruct the fetus' cells to form female or male genetalia, and later in the development, those same instructions dictate the gendering of the brain. If something goes wrong in the first phase, an XX individual could end up with male genetalia, and this is considered a physical/medical condition, or an intersex condition. Why, then, if something goes wrong in the second phase, and an XX individual's brain is instructed to form as an XY brain, is that considered strictly a mental condition? The PHYSICAL forms of a person's brain causes gender dysphoria, so it is a physical condition that manifests as a mental one.

So, yes, while the source of the issue in transgender individuals is in the brain, while the source with intersex individuals is the genitals, the cause of both is the same...the set of instructions that instruct a fetus to form as male or female are misinterpreted...just at different stages of development.


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13 Jun 2013, 8:54 am

Jinks wrote:
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That's the problem with having transgenderism. Hell if you transition and hell if you don't. That's why so many people with transgenderism commit or attempt suicide. They can't have a happy life going either direction.


I'm a little surprised by this statement. You say you know a lot of trans people, so I can't believe you don't know any who have gone on to have a happy life despite being transgendered! I transitioned in my early 20s and am now in my early 30s, and can report that for me gender is now entirely a non-issue (I happen to be working through autism-related difficulties, but I am otherwise perfectly happy with the way I am). The vast majority of trans people are far happier after transition.


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There are also some misunderstandings about statistics on the previous page - I am familiar with the studies giving the success rating (measured by an improvement in quality of life) for people who transition as 90%, and that is correct.


First of all, just because someone who transitioned commits suicide does NOT necesserely means that they are unhappy with their decissionin the first place. I had huge trouble with the system, going through therapies and all the law stuff with the name change and getting everything organized and straighten out. Also a friend of mine died (he propably commited suicide). He was in love with me, but with my physical gender and had trouble accepting that I transitioned. Those were all society based problems and in this time I also had one suicide attemped. But since I have straighen out those problems I'm very happy about the decission that I transitioned. I really ask myself why some people have to make it so difficult for transgender people?


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13 Jun 2013, 4:49 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
Nowadays, people are allowed hormones after 3 months, but in the past you had to do your real life test purely by cross-dressing. The idea was to make it brutally psychologically punishing, in order to, again, sort out the people who really needed to transition from those who might end up with regrets.


And if you have gone through all of this "punishment" you end up with even more psychiatric problems because the system can be very brutal (and it's actually very common that people need a therapy from the transgender therapy in the end).

I ended up having an anxiety disorder with traumatic symptoms from my experience with shrinks at that time.


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