LGBT Community Is Hostile

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I've been really turned off by the LGBTQ+ community at times and have chosen to stay away for the most part. I feel it makes it all the more difficult to find partners on top of having Asperger's. It's frustrating.

"males gaining at the expense of females by pretending to be one of us "
I have a sense that historically at least people born male and making transition to female have tended to loose . those making gains have been a minority. Avoiding being dismissed from work or having a client base evapourate was very much up to chance and fortune and protection in law is a comapratively recent and welcome change.

One reason I suspect a great many transwomen have transitioned quite late in life, so as to have some sort of security built up in savings, a home at least partly paid for and so forth.

I could immagine an equally forthright point of view against Transmen, claiming they were Women fraudulently claiming male privilege by pretending to be men, and again I suspicion is that actual experience would not actually match that point of view.

I am gay and like everything else in my life I don't fit here either. Having Asperger's syndrome meeting people is difficult enough. In general I don't associate with the gay community. Way too much group think, a lot of airheads, and if you don't do it there way then your not "in the club".

I find it to be very single minded and shallow. I'm not one for clubs as I cant deal with noise and have no one really to go with. Part of me wishes I had a BF but just not sure I could ever find some compatible with me and my issues.

This was pretty much my experience with the Gay community as well. When I was 19 and had left home for the first time to go to university, I became immersed in the community because I felt free for the first time, but I quickly learned that I had just as little in common with other gay people as I do with any other group (generally). lol It was a hard thing to learn unfortunately, and kind of demoralising. Mind you, this was 16 years ago now, and the nature of the community has changed quite a lot, but at that time, it seemed to be all about going clubbing and drinking and doing hard drugs--basically all things that I had no interest in. I actually remember having a conversation with a guy who mentioned something about cocaine, and I responded by saying that I'd never touch the stuff, at which point he proceeded to tell me that I was young, and everyone always says that, but eventually they try it and like it. lol Hate to break it to that dude, wherever he may have (or may not have) ended up, but I STILL have no interest in cocaine. lol So yeah, I fell out of love with the "community" within a year of being on my own I would say. At this point in my life though, I'm pretty okay with that. It makes more sense to me to surround yourself with people who share common interests and the same fundamental values as you rather than people who are just of the same sexuality. This isn't to say that the LGBTQ community doesn't serve a purpose or anything, especially for someone having trouble coming to terms with themselves and in need of support in that way. Having a common struggle can be something to rally around and all, but I don't know, sometimes that's not enough. This might be especially true with people on the spectrum who are also LGBTQ.

All I got from that link was spam from closet makers..

Thank you hatsrobrageous.
Very interesting discussion.

I haven't made any attempts at dating or really getting involved, I usually just end up being ignored or treated weird. The whole drinking and drugs thing no thanks.

The same

I don't find the community hostile, but most LGBT people I know are extroverts who are good at expressing emotions and that can be hard for me to fit in.

Because it's s**t.

The homosexual movement is one of the worst movements ever. It's terribly organized and it will never succeed.

Lol it already succeeded. Gay people can legally marry in USA and Canada, and I am sure that is coming in other countries as well, ok maybe not terrorist countries.

"One of the worst movements ever." What does that even mean? lol And what it is that you think they're trying to accomplish that they haven't yet? Total world domination or something? lol

I personally think that the LGBT community can be hostile but I think it is due to most of them being NT to begin with as in the non-LGBT population. Furthermore, I think the antisocial behavior comes from a more domineering personality as most people unfortunately most people aren't very libertarian in their worldview. Due to their nature authoritarian people will be more unaccepting overall (become one of us or don't come at all) and I don't think there's an exception even among LGBT people.

haha!

no....THE nature is sнiт...
btw i'm not gay ... just interested in socium

Can you talk to the Authoritarian majority idea? Not trying to be positive or negative myself on that claim, just kind of interested in your explication, if you are cool with it.

The NT / aspie difference is insane. I have an NT gay spouse (I am Aspie Undiagnosed; working on it, don't judge me!) and we talk about that subject far too much. He keeps telling me to imagine as if when NT's talk to each other it is like they are one mind talking to itself. Bizarre!

If one of those NT minds happens to be authoritarian, it can obviously be difficult for all. Aut's should have an even harder time with such situations. High Intelligence Aut's should have the hardest time because bad arguments will never sound right. If the hive mind is being led by the nose by a dictator, then the Aspie will never follow along; bad math is bad math. Dictator: Crush the heretic!

I had an authoritarian older brother, and yes, we physically fought. I think it psychologically negatively affected me without me even knowing it. The problem with authority is related to compliance. Things get complicated in terms of debate, but it seems like to me at least, that it always comes down to two questions.

1. Logic.
2. Emapthy.

Dictators don't care about either.

On the other hand, Aut's and NT's just kind of speak different languages, which alone causes problems. If an NT does not disagree during conversation explicitly, according to my Spouse, there is implicit agreement. This default is so strong it still causes problems for both of us, even though we do our best to remember and come up with conversational rules to handle it. It is crazy.

We just try not to make a big deal about it. We do not blame each other for it anymore. No outbursts of "WHY did you not....". It is still tough though.

Also, posts so far have been interesting. The first posts had stuff to do with Spironolactone and LGBTQ+ "Community" related ideas. It looked like from the posts there could be made an argument for some kind of public health related outbreak of disease, both psychosocially as well as because of the previously listed drug. I was interested, but the topic petered out. If anyone wants to bring that topic back up, I am more than interested in learning.

So far, LGBTQ community interaction for myself has been positive. I love the Bear Crowd. Lesbians can be quite feisty at times, but who cares? Trans people make my heart skip because they are so nice and misunderstood [in my limited experience], even by themselves in those most agonizing of cases. We are all just light trapped in painful meat-sacks, so we should be easy with each other if we can. Take care 'yall!

I mean to say that most people are authoritarian or lean towards that irregardless of being Aspie/NT or being LGBT or not. (You certainly could have someone who is LGBT, Aspie and has an authoritarian personality.) The reason being is that human society is organized this way since ancient times; people back then honestly thought that by having strong leadership (and the society and moral code that results from it) that they would live a better life. Some people know better but it's really not much different today vs thousands of years ago. (I apologize if I didn't clarify that in my previous post.)