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18 Dec 2014, 9:51 am

b9 wrote:
there is some show i watched a few times recently called "pretty boys" (on cable TV whilst going to sleep and not bothering to find the remote control to select a better channel), and it purports to show the most "convincing" sex changed men, and it also shows their partners who generally come from western countries, and who are completely satisfied with the sex changed men even though they (the partners) were avowedly heterosexual "back home".
some of these partners are rough looking bikie men who claim they like a "good busty woman", and they are not phased in the slightest at the fact that their current partners (the sex changed men) are fundamentally male.

I know I'm a million pages behind here.. but are we basing all trans people on a frggin tv show?



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18 Dec 2014, 12:27 pm

cubeyz wrote:
b9 wrote:
there is some show i watched a few times recently called "pretty boys" (on cable TV whilst going to sleep and not bothering to find the remote control to select a better channel), and it purports to show the most "convincing" sex changed men, and it also shows their partners who generally come from western countries, and who are completely satisfied with the sex changed men even though they (the partners) were avowedly heterosexual "back home".
some of these partners are rough looking bikie men who claim they like a "good busty woman", and they are not phased in the slightest at the fact that their current partners (the sex changed men) are fundamentally male.

I know I'm a million pages behind here.. but are we basing all trans people on a frggin tv show?


If that's the case then that's sad. Judge the individual by their personality, not by a blanket view / statement.

That's how I view things.



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19 Dec 2014, 9:09 am

cubeyz wrote:
b9 wrote:
there is some show i watched a few times recently called "pretty boys" (on cable TV whilst going to sleep and not bothering to find the remote control to select a better channel), and it purports to show the most "convincing" sex changed men, and it also shows their partners who generally come from western countries, and who are completely satisfied with the sex changed men even though they (the partners) were avowedly heterosexual "back home".
some of these partners are rough looking bikie men who claim they like a "good busty woman", and they are not phased in the slightest at the fact that their current partners (the sex changed men) are fundamentally male.

I know I'm a million pages behind here.. but are we basing all trans people on a frggin tv show?

who is "we"?
i did not base anything on anything. i just reported what i saw. it is you that imputes judgement on my part due possibly to your hypersensitivity.

also i was incorrect. it was called "lady boys".



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19 Dec 2014, 10:23 am

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Sure, if I was attracted to them and they reciprocated my feelings. That goes for MTF, FTM or whatever.


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19 Dec 2014, 10:29 am

It is also highly offensive to refer to a woman as a "sex changed man". That includes a woman who has needed medical help to become outwardly what she is inwardly. I also feel that calling a man who is attracted to a woman as "avowedly heterosexual" is intended to cause offence.



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19 Dec 2014, 10:48 am

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It is also highly offensive to refer to a woman as a "sex changed man".

i never called any woman a "sex changed man". women are women and i know they are not sex changed men.

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That includes a woman who has needed medical help to become outwardly what she is inwardly.
but i thought it was the vagina that was improvised by surgery. anyway, i have not said anything offensive about women.

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I also feel that calling a man who is attracted to a woman as "avowedly heterosexual" is intended to cause offence.

but they were not attracted to women on that show. they were attracted to sex changed men, and i thought i was paying sex changed men a compliment by remarking that even though the natural men were avowedly heterosexual, they were still able to be attracted to the sex changed men. whatever. people are squealing about how i personally am not attracted to them, and i extend an olive branch by citing examples that prove the sex changed men are convincing enough to be satisfactory for those men on the show who claimed they are normally unflinchingly heterosexual.

sorry for whatever. i am not good at diplomacy.



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19 Dec 2014, 11:32 am

Well, you know what they say: if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck...

...it must be a malformed goose, because, because... well because.

b9, would you call a person with complete androgen insensitivity (so, they have a Y chromosome) a man? Would you call someone with XX/XY chimerism a man?

Or, would you say someone is not an adult, they are a grown-up child? :lol:



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19 Dec 2014, 12:05 pm

Magneto wrote:
Well, you know what they say: if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck...

...it must be a malformed goose, because, because... well because.

b9, would you call a person with complete androgen insensitivity (so, they have a Y chromosome) a man? Would you call someone with XX/XY chimerism a man?

Or, would you say someone is not an adult, they are a grown-up child? :lol:

i don't really care



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19 Dec 2014, 1:49 pm

Except there is no such thing as a "sex changed man"

They are women who were born into the wrong body and decided to fully transition. Not all trans-women do fully transition, but they are still women. End of story.



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20 Dec 2014, 7:37 pm

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Except there is no such thing as a "sex changed man".


Yes there are. FtM's are sex changed men. Says Alison who transitioned some seventeen years ago, with correctional surgery in Phuket Thailand ten years ago. As for descriptions - I am foremost a woman, secondly a trans woman. The only difference being my history. I've had a far more exciting one than most women my age.

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21 Dec 2014, 8:38 am

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andrethemoogle wrote:
Except there is no such thing as a "sex changed man".


Yes there are. FtM's are sex changed men. Says Alison who transitioned some seventeen years ago, with correctional surgery in Phuket Thailand ten years ago. As for descriptions - I am foremost a woman, secondly a trans woman. The only difference being my history. I've had a far more exciting one than most women my age.

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I'm not the smartest one of the bunch, but are you saying that you are a MTF or FTM? If so, which one?


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21 Dec 2014, 8:40 am

alisoncc wrote:
andrethemoogle wrote:
As for descriptions - I am foremost a woman, secondly a trans woman. The only difference being my history. I've had a far more exciting one than most women my age.

Hugs Alison


That's me too. I'm a woman, and only a trans woman when it's relevant. Usually it isn't.
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28 Dec 2014, 7:30 pm

I would date a MTF, but not a FTM.



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29 Dec 2014, 4:28 pm

of course. i honestly dont think it would bother me. im very open minded. :)



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29 Dec 2014, 4:56 pm

I would never really date anyone because I think I'm asexual.



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01 Jan 2015, 3:51 am

No

Though I wouldn't date pretty much most humans, so that's not saying all that much.