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31 May 2012, 6:51 am

He may just be experimenting, perhaps to see if he feels like he fits in better done up as a girl than he does as a boy. We on the spectrum don't fit in, and this attempt to find a way to feel more like one fits in would not surprise me. I would sit with him though, and tell him nicely, that he shouldn't take other people's clothes, but that if he wants to try something like that you could get him a few pair. You also need to let him know that it isn't a good idea to wear them to school, as the other boys will give him a hard time if he does.

I myself am an asexual female. I have no interest in being either gender.


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31 May 2012, 9:00 am

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We as parents are concerned as to what this may mean for the future. To put it bluntly: is he going to be a cross dressor, gay or is this a possible 'phase' that he will just grow out of?. I'm just looking for honest thoughts and experiences on this. Please do not ridicule. It is very difficult for us.


Hopefully he'll turn out happy with himself and how this is achieved is not really important, very easy for me to say since I'm not involved but I didn't so I try and let people live their own lives and accept that, and if you're curious why he does it you should probably ask him, he might be doing it just for the giggle.

Hopefully it won't be a ride too rough on you. :)


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31 May 2012, 9:08 am

i fail to see how the cross dressing is problematic or how it is linked to sexuality... just let the kid be and let him experiment with gender. its just a social construct and he'll figure out how he fits into it himself. its ok for boys to wear dresses and makeup and stuff. the shrink might say this gender deviance is typical of the autism spectrum but its typical of NT kids too though most of the ones i know went through that at a much younger stage and were only stopped because their parents were paranoid theyd turn out gay or think they were girls. i dont know exactly what you mean by underwear with a hole in the front but if its what i think you mean then i'd peg it to kids these days being overly sexualised. if its not then i just have a dirty mind.



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31 May 2012, 9:54 am

Just continue loving him, I guess. In my old house or neighbourhood he would've been beaten within an inch of his life for doing those things. (This comes from experience, by the way).



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31 May 2012, 10:25 am

Aspies are notoriously nonjudgmental, non racist, nonhomophobic.
Wanna screw a kid up fast? Invade his privacy, which can lead to future insecurity about exploring even unrelated issues. (I'm not suggesting that you have or are screwing him up, please forgive me if I'm giving that impression)
Aspies think different.
I suggest to make a judgment quickly (on anything he does) if it isn't going to cause any real, rational, valid, immediate harm, let him run with it. Making an 'issue' can do as much, or often more, long term psycho-emotional harm than the original 'weirdness' does. Guide him -on any topic- so he doesn't embarrass himself in public.

Be strong.
Don't think about it at all, because if you do, any confusion, 'disgust', fear, or any other emotion will show somehow, somewhere, and he'll start to doubt/fear/hate himself or parts of himself. (Don't bother pretending that you can hide it, even the most amazing movie stars aren't that good and couldn't 'work' 24/7 anyhow.)

IMO the only thing you can do is to make him feel happy that he is himself, then he'll have the power and confidence to 'fix' anything he dislikes throughout his whole life. =)


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31 May 2012, 12:28 pm

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31 May 2012, 1:28 pm

Awesome, you're obviously a very good person, amazing kudos to you. =)
It's likely not personal, your's was probably the only 'interesting' underthings available to him.

the future is not set, ever, you'll be fine, he'll be fine.
as fine as anyone else can expect for themselves, that is.


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31 May 2012, 1:43 pm

I don't see this as unusual behaviour on the part of a twelve year old boy who is entering the early stages of puberty.

I think you have taken the correct step in distinguishing the unacceptable aspects of his behaviour (going into your bedroom and taking your things) from those that are natural, if private.


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31 May 2012, 2:54 pm

VMSmith wrote:
if its what i think you mean then i'd peg it to kids these days being overly sexualised. if its not then i just have a dirty mind.
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I emphatically disagree that kids today are "over-sexualized". In some ways adult sexuality is foisted on them (as with many other aspects of culturally normative adulthood) but their natural sexual curiosity and sexuality is actually repressed by means of taboo.



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01 Jun 2012, 3:45 am

Boilingpoint wrote:
Thank you for your comments.

The only thing we have done about this is to tell him that it is not acceptable for him to go into our bedroom without permission and steal my underwear.

I don't believe he is over sexualised as he has not been exposed to porn. He only has internet access on his computer that has parental controls and we can see what he's doing anyway, so it doesnt come from that route (something queried by counsellor).

His mother and what goes on at her home is not something we have a lot of information on apart from him saying he didnt like it when there was a new boyfriend whom he only met that day in her bed at night. But... I dont think that would trigger off this type of experimentation or needs. He has very little controls put on him at her home and very little input from her. She is mostly just happy to let him watch tv all day so long as she can sit in front of the computer in chat rooms and playing bejewelled or such. He does complain that she doesnt care about him.

We have tried to keep relaxed and non judgemental about it. We only brought it up with regard to the stealing aspect of it really. But we are very concerned about his behaviour and what it means for the future. Personally, as his stepmother, I am struggling a lot with this. The fact of him using my underwear in that way is very difficult to live with and I feel myself withdrawing from him emotionally. I have brought up two NT sons who are now adults and i'm just not used to this type of thing.

If you want to eliminate the risk of him taking your clothes, buy him his own, I guess that would be the easiest way of solving it. :)


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01 Jun 2012, 8:30 am

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01 Jun 2012, 11:55 am

If this is how you behave when your prejudices get challenged then why on earth did you come into this forum and ask this question?

You are one of the only people who can decide what good parenting steps are for each of your children, but to respond to someone's honest answer with, "Some great parenting that would be," is rude and disrespectful.

Perhaps you need a bit of parenting before you start looking for advice on your own parenting.


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01 Jun 2012, 1:42 pm

Behave like what exactly?

Truth is, his behaviour is worrying, thats why the psych doc sent him to this counselling. I am allowed to have my own opinion, sorry if it doesnt fit with yours but cross dressing is not 'typical' for anyone. It is unusual.

Am I not allowed to have feelings about this going on in my home with my underwear? . You are being judgmental in deciding how I have to parent. I dont need parenting thanks, I dont have any psycological problems much as you might like to hope.

Have a nice life



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01 Jun 2012, 2:12 pm

When did I ever suggest you weren't allowed to have your own opinion. Quite the contrary--I said that you were one of the only people who gets to make the call about what's good parenting for each of your children.

What I did state, explicitly, is that you were rude to people whose help you solicited.

We didn't ask you to come in here and ask for our opinion. And when it is offerred to you, you behaved disrespectfully.

I am not being judgemental about your parenting--I am being judgemental about your behaviour.


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