Canadians: Should we be worried?

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To anyone else here who is Canadian, you know that now we have a Conservative majority government. Of course, the Conservatives oppose gay marriage and tried to get rid of it a few years back when they had recently come to power. Fortunately they only had a minority at the time and all of the other parties kept him from even opening it for discussion. But they won't be able to stop him now if he decides to make an issue out of it. Should we be worried?

Yes we should stephen harper is not a canadian conservative, he is an extreme right wing radical from preston mannings reform party. You can read more about the history of the right here:

http://harpercrusade.blogspot.com/

They are going to choke canada to death, they are multinational corporate party posing as a canadian party they are the fascist party (pro multinational, anti-canadian).

The american right and the canadian right have been learning from one another over the last 40 years.

The canada health act is not going to be enforced as long as conservatives are in the government. More privatization of healthcare. The worst part is canadians believe what everything they get from corporate media, they have no idea how concentrated the media is in canada.

The conservatives are going to destroy this country by simply defunding everything slowly and chipping away at it over time and purposely cause a 'false crisis' (by lack of funding) then the media will chime in saying 'how we can't afford healthcare/social spending'.

The truth about canada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8D67YiLcOM

Who killed canada?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 967998175#

Well, yes, I know all of that and am worried about it. But this is the LGBT forum, so I'm more concerned with LGBT issues in this topic.

Insofar as LGBT rights are concerned, I think the alarmism is misplaced, and makes us look both weak and foolish.

Let's remember what the Prime Minister's long game is: the destruction of the the centrist parties (the PC's and the Liberals), and firm control of the allegience of the old Martin Liberals. He is betting that in a straight-up Conservative NDP fight that the center will break right enough. (If only 1/3 of the Liberal votes on Monday had gone Conservative and the other 2/3 NDP, he would have had an even larger majority than he did. Only in a scenario where 100% of Monday's liberal vote goes to the NDP would the NDP have won a government).

So, if he is going to keep these voters there are at least three no-go issues: no assault on same-sex marriage; no assault on access to or funding of abortion services; no attempt to implement the death penalty. Any one of these moves would mobilize large numbers of urban voters out of the Conservative column and back to the Liberals--especially with the bounce that they will get after a leadership convention.

The Prime Minister has done many things that make him worthy of our opposition: the census, the "law-and-order" agenda, the secrecy and message control, etc. Why invent things that he might do (but seems incredibly unlikely to do) when we can villify him for the things that he has done.

Hopefully you're right. I generally try to ignore the Conservatives--it's better for my mental health and stress level to do that--so I can't claim to know a lot about their plans and strategy. Still, I'd be lying if I didn't admit to being a little worried about them having a majority, given their official stance on this issue.

Bitter irony--I realize I'm gay and then a few months later we get a Conservative majority elected...

If they threaten to cut health care, they might have people turn against them too.

Yes. If they follow through with all of their policies then they'd never win the next election. But what they might do is slowly sneak things through, enough to do harm but not enough to generate too big an outrage.

By the way, can I infer from your nickname that you support the Green Party?

No it is greengeek, because I'm environmentally green and I'm a geek.

That's maybe why they do not want Aspies in their country, as it easier to pass things by when you're dealing with sheep, than it is when your dealing with smarter animals, or even goats. Here's a post on WrongPlanet about Canada's "Aspies Not are Welcome here Policy" here Canadian immigration says son with Asperger’s ‘inadmissible’. I would prefer government by Aspies, as they seem to be smarter and more caring than the general population at the present time, though I would settle for government by non-Communist Atheists, as they would not have religion blind their governing. Some of the Aspies and Atheists maybe one and the same, as occasionally people are members of both "groups." If I had a choice between flying on a modern airplane, an old de Havilland Comet 1 with the square windows, or a poorly maintained Soviet airplane with the last two choices having old pre-9/11 security, I would take the Comet or the Soviet craft, as I would rather have the plane explosively decompress or fall out of the sky, than having to deal with the thieves and molesters of airport security.

It sucks that we can't lock the unwanted politicians in a building like the one in "The New Avengers" episode "Complex," and see how long it takes before the building eliminates them all, but you would want to make sure that all of the electronics systems are waterproof, so they can't take the system out with water. You could even do it in Toronto, like they did with the episode.

I don't know much about Canadian politics so please excuse my ignorance.

It seems you guys have similar issues to the states in this regard. I did not realize we had a similar political system.

I wish you people the best of luck, and I hope you wish us the same (2012 Presidential elections).

They're not that similar, really. Our electoral system is very different too. Gay marriage is probably safe for the moment, although I'm still wary. But if another party ever gets back into power, or if we just have a minority Conservative government, then I imagine gay marriage would very quickly be allowed again, even if the Conservative ban it.

At least Gay Marriage is legal in your country. The vast majority of the US doesn't recognize it - I even remember reading a story from the midwest about how a marriage between a transwoman and a man was deemed not real because the transwoman was seen as male. It's f****d up.

Yes, right now we have good laws in Canada. It's just whether they survive this government.