New airline hires transsexual flight attendants

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16 Dec 2011, 9:48 am

Awesome. And why the hell not? :D



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16 Dec 2011, 9:50 am

Sounds like a good initiative to me. At least they didn't only hire transexuals as some sort of gimmick.


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16 Dec 2011, 10:10 am

I'm totally cool with this.

However, I never understood why there aren't male flight attendants. Well, there are, but not that many of them. I don't understand why it has to be a feminine person.



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16 Dec 2011, 10:30 am

deconstruction wrote:
I'm totally cool with this.

However, I never understood why there aren't male flight attendants. Well, there are, but not that many of them. I don't understand why it has to be a feminine person.

Same reason there aren't as many male nurses (though that seems to be changing faster than with flight attendants), they're "caretaker" positions. Their job consists largely of making customers comfortable and women are still seen as being more approachable in such settings.


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16 Dec 2011, 10:31 am

deconstruction wrote:
Well, there are, but not that many of them


That's not really true, is it? There are lots and lots of men as flight attendants here in the UK, serving nibbles and whatnot.



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16 Dec 2011, 10:33 am

heard it on russel howards good news,
when the pervs finally save up to go they can get'a'pervin right away :D


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16 Dec 2011, 10:41 am

Oodain wrote:
heard it on russel howards good news,
when the pervs finally save up to go they can get'a'pervin right away :D

Damn it, I missed Russel Howard?! Why haven't I set it to record, yet? >_>

Gonna do that now.


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16 Dec 2011, 10:48 am

Lecks wrote:
deconstruction wrote:
I'm totally cool with this.

However, I never understood why there aren't male flight attendants. Well, there are, but not that many of them. I don't understand why it has to be a feminine person.

Same reason there aren't as many male nurses (though that seems to be changing faster than with flight attendants), they're "caretaker" positions. Their job consists largely of making customers comfortable and women are still seen as being more approachable in such settings.


I understand. It's sexist and unfair to assume only women are good for these positions. I'd sure want a male flight attendant to make me comfortable and nurture me during a flight.

(Ok, this came out as more Adult than intended).

Another position with not many males, at least in my country: kindergarten teacher. And babysitters.



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16 Dec 2011, 10:53 am

deconstruction wrote:
Another position with not many males, at least in my country: kindergarten teacher. And babysitters.


Men can't be allowed to look after children because they're all paedophiles or child murderers. Obviously.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:26 am

deconstruction wrote:
I'm totally cool with this.

However, I never understood why there aren't male flight attendants. Well, there are, but not that many of them. I don't understand why it has to be a feminine person.


Ther are LOADS of male flight attendants in the Uk as someone said - It's known a VERy 'gay friendly' industry . I haev lots of trollie dolly gay pals!



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16 Dec 2011, 1:44 pm

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16 Dec 2011, 3:25 pm

Tequila wrote:
deconstruction wrote:
Well, there are, but not that many of them


That's not really true, is it? There are lots and lots of men as flight attendants here in the UK, serving nibbles and whatnot.

I don't know anything about it in Europe, but there's some interesting history behind it in the USA. Originally flight attendants were male, because stewards on ships and attendants on trains had always been male. But in the pre-Reagan era, air travel was heavily regulated. And not just routes and prices, but what food could be served, how much of it, how much leg room there could be... everything. So there really wasn't much way for the different airlines to distinguish themselves. At the time most travelers were male business travelers. As a gimmick, one airline hired all female flight attendants, put them in designer outfits (at the time their outfits were considered rather risque) and put a somewhat sexual spin to the advertising. More people started to fly with them and the stock increased in value. Pretty soon other airlines started to do the same thing. They'd only hire attractive flight attendants, required pre-flight weigh-ins, had them where the latest in fashionable clothes etc. And I think they had to retire at 30 or 32 or something. Eventually they unionized and managed to get rid of these sorts of requirements and as a result the profession opened to men. But, of course, it's still viewed as a "female" profession, so not many men would want to become flight attendants today. At least not in North America.



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17 Dec 2011, 12:54 pm

The first flight attendants weren't male; they were female nurses. Then in the 60s they changed to sexy females. Then duringth e70s the first male attendants were hired in the States. I've been told that the unions kept men from beign attendants but I don't knwo if that is true.



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17 Dec 2011, 12:55 pm

Do you supposd they do Drag schows? the was Southwesterna dn soem companies try to entertain you when you fly, this might be a nice differsion. LOL



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17 Dec 2011, 1:11 pm

craiglll wrote:
The first flight attendants weren't male; they were female nurses. Then in the 60s they changed to sexy females. Then duringth e70s the first male attendants were hired in the States. I've been told that the unions kept men from beign attendants but I don't knwo if that is true.

By first I mean the ones in the 20s. That's what I read in my sociology textbook anyway.