Italian Crank doctor claims "Vaccines cause homosexual

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14 Apr 2013, 1:57 pm

... I was listening to one of my favorite science podcasts, The Skeptics Guide to the Universe, and Dr. Steve Novella mentioned a study that claims that homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism, and is caused by vaccinations.

here's a link to Steve Novella's blog on the study:
NeuroLogica Blog - "Vaccines are Gay"

...this study is quite possibly the most enraging and ignorant thing i have heard in a while.

what are your thoughts?


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14 Apr 2013, 2:40 pm

I didn't read the article but if homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom then how can it be caused by a vaccine in humans?



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14 Apr 2013, 2:43 pm

That and how many vaccines had the ancient Romans developed & used?


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14 Apr 2013, 3:14 pm

Someone...just please...b**ch slap Vanoli! :wall:


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14 Apr 2013, 3:50 pm

I'm sorry, but I didn't read the article. What's so enraging about it?

Any way, if vaccines cause homosexuality, then maybe we can vaccinate the whole world to create a fully homosexual world. It might be more peaceful and surely help resolve the problem of the overpopulation of the planet, about which so many people complain.

I like the idea that 'homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism'.



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14 Apr 2013, 5:05 pm

it's enraging to me and many others because it perpetuates the bad science of the Anti-Vaccination movement. claiming that homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism brands homosexuality as a malady, which is something that the LGBT crowd has fought against for such a long time, and also flies in the face of the neurodiversity movement. i'm absolutely disgusted with this study on so many levels... irrationally and emotionally, i want to say that i think this guy is just a quack bigot. i am trying really, really hard to keep this post free of invectives that ring more harshly... but i certainly think this "scientist" deserves any that come to him.

i'm pretty sure that there is no link between autism and vaccines, as well as i'm sure that there is no link between autism and homosexuality.

maybe if the whole world was gay, it would be a better place... we can't know that for sure. there is data out there that supports the notion that nations led by women are less likely to be at war with other nations, but i don't know that there are any studies on if LGBT leaders are less warlike than straight males. this would be interesting to explore.


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14 Apr 2013, 5:06 pm

also: i do know how to spell "Italian", i was just in a rush when i typed the title, and i didn't notice it until right now... does anyone know if i could change this?

damn my double-t typing! :D


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14 Apr 2013, 7:23 pm

I wasn't aware that there were negative connotations to homosexuality or autism. I'm not very up to date with what's going on in the world. Autism is new to me. Homosexuality has always been something positive for me, but I guess the majority of the world see it quite differently from the way I do. That's why I found the statement 'homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism' rather interesting than offensive. Maybe I'm just being naive.



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14 Apr 2013, 7:30 pm

I have no words for just how stupid this guy's theory is.

Anyway, I've used my mod powers to edit the title of this thread.


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14 Apr 2013, 7:40 pm

jk1 wrote:
I wasn't aware that there were negative connotations to homosexuality or autism. I'm not very up to date with what's going on in the world. Autism is new to me. Homosexuality has always been something positive for me, but I guess the majority of the world see it quite differently from the way I do. That's why I found the statement 'homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism' rather interesting than offensive. Maybe I'm just being naive.


no, i don't think you're being naïve. I also think that homosexuality is a positive and healthy way of being... as is bisexuality, heterosexuality, and anywhere else on the sexuality spectrum. the reason this study is so harmful is that it's saying that homosexuality is a disease, something that most of the world's medical and psychological know to be false. relating homosexuality to autism is a way for this joker to justify his false claim that homosexuality is a disease, because most people know of autism as a disease. the very idea is offensive on many fronts.

...how is autism new to you?


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14 Apr 2013, 7:41 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
I have no words for just how stupid this guy's theory is.

Anyway, I've used my mod powers to edit the title of this thread.


oh, you are just great... thank you for saving my title!


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14 Apr 2013, 7:46 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
I didn't read the article but if homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom then how can it be caused by a vaccine in humans?


...yet another giant hole in this hypothesis.


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14 Apr 2013, 8:14 pm

donothing1979 wrote:
jk1 wrote:
I wasn't aware that there were negative connotations to homosexuality or autism. I'm not very up to date with what's going on in the world. Autism is new to me. Homosexuality has always been something positive for me, but I guess the majority of the world see it quite differently from the way I do. That's why I found the statement 'homosexuality is a "micro-form" of autism' rather interesting than offensive. Maybe I'm just being naive.


no, i don't think you're being naïve. I also think that homosexuality is a positive and healthy way of being... as is bisexuality, heterosexuality, and anywhere else on the sexuality spectrum. the reason this study is so harmful is that it's saying that homosexuality is a disease, something that most of the world's medical and psychological know to be false. relating homosexuality to autism is a way for this joker to justify his false claim that homosexuality is a disease, because most people know of autism as a disease. the very idea is offensive on many fronts.

...how is autism new to you?


I had always known "autism" since my childhood when we had a neighbor who had a severe case of autism. I was one of those ignorant people who thought autistic = Rain Man until late last year when I found out that autism is a spectrum disorder and that I'm myself possibly on that spectrum. That changed the whole idea of "autism" completely for me. So in that sense autism is something new that I'm still learning about since my old idea of autism was completely wrong. But is autism considered as a disease as you mentioned in your paragraph? This idea of neurodiversity goes against that negative view of autism, doesn't it?

As to homosexuality, I have always known that there are some ignorant bigoted trash people who falsely look down on homosexual people. Also those irrational religious people who cling to their delusional ideas. I really don't take notice of those people because they are really hopeless. I feel superior to those misinformed people.



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14 Apr 2013, 8:58 pm

on the whole, i think autism is still viewed as a disease, and this is why the neurodiversity movement is so important.


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15 Apr 2013, 4:20 am

TheBlueEyedAlien wrote:
Someone...just please...b**ch slap Vanoli! :wall:


At your service. *goes into big bad butch mode* *flies over to Italy* *gives Vanoli a good beating*



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15 Apr 2013, 9:29 am

Heidi80 wrote:
TheBlueEyedAlien wrote:
Someone...just please...b**ch slap Vanoli! :wall:


At your service. *goes into big bad butch mode* *flies over to Italy* *gives Vanoli a good beating*


now now, violence never solves anything. this guy should just be profoundly publicly ridiculed and exposed for the quack that he is until the day he dies, that's all.


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