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Are you LGBT and do you identify yourself as Christian?
Yes, I do identify myself as Christian 63%  63%  [ 10 ]
No, I was raised Christian and I left the church because of anti gay policies 38%  38%  [ 6 ]
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28 Feb 2014, 10:11 pm

Hello,

I am sure we have some LGBT people on this forum who either identify themselves as Christian or who were raised in a Christian household and left the church because of anti gay policies. I wrote a blog post about the church and it's attitude towards LGBT people. You are welcome to read it and leave a comment on here or on my blog.

http://dwarren57.wordpress.com/2014/02/ ... -flawless/


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28 Feb 2014, 10:42 pm

I didn't leave the church because of anti-gay policies. I just didn't buy what they were selling. I question everything and I think in such a black and white way that blind acceptance in faith just doesn't work for me.

By the same token, from what I've read in the bible, they're free to point out gays, though. It is there in Leviticus so I don't know how gay people reconcile that fact with their attendance and adherence to it.



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28 Feb 2014, 10:43 pm

Kinda scattered ramblings vs. a coherent post.. just saying.

Many Christian churches of various denominations are coming around to the idea of gay marriage and being inclusive of all people. Eventually all of them will evolve out of the dark ages.

But for myself, as a baptized Roman Catholic & God father to a few kids.. my take on it is "why care? at all." Seriously. I'm familiar with the religion, as well as many other religions, but couldn't care less to practice any one particular one nor allow my life to be dictated by religious indoctrination. I much prefer living as a free human being. Sure, I'm spiritual and do believe in a number of commonalities amongst almost all religions, ie being a good person, the power of prayer etc, but I just don't have a place in my life for organized religion of any brand.. and that frees me of a lot of potential stress.


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28 Feb 2014, 11:04 pm

here are a few Christian groups which accept LGBT folks: quakers, the "we are church" movement in the catholic church, the Presbyterian church in the USA, the episcopal church in the USA. I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of.



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01 Mar 2014, 4:28 am

I have become a regular viewer of the services at Washington National Cathedral. Dean Gary Hall and Bishop Bhudde seem like very interesting figures in the Episcopal church.


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01 Mar 2014, 5:17 am

redrobin62 wrote:
I didn't leave the church because of anti-gay policies. I just didn't buy what they were selling. I question everything and I think in such a black and white way that blind acceptance in faith just doesn't work for me.

This was my experience growing up in the church, too. I'm a natural sceptic, which is great if you're a scientist but not if you want to take your pastor's word at face value every Sunday. I'm more agnostic these days, but I still have a lot of love for the church and for some (but not all) of the things they teach.

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By the same token, from what I've read in the bible, they're free to point out gays, though. It is there in Leviticus so I don't know how gay people reconcile that fact with their attendance and adherence to it.

Christians have different views on how applicable the laws of Leviticus are these days. Of course, homosexuality is proscribed in the New Testament as well, although there's some debate on those scriptures, too. Worth investigating both sides if you want to be gay and Christian. Keep in mind that most denominations of Christianity proscribe homosexual behaviour rather than the sexual orientation itself: i.e., you can be gay so long as you don't have gay sex, etc.


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01 Mar 2014, 9:45 am

Raised southern baptist and rejected by my family when I came out. I had already dumped the church for how much they railed against me just did not tell my parents why until I had my own apartment since I knew I would be homeless if I had not made the preparations before coming out. They only spoke to me to tell me how awful I was for decades. Even now we speak very little.

I refuse to even walk into a church.


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01 Mar 2014, 12:50 pm

Church and religion aren't the same thing.

You go to practice religion at church, but a church is not necessary for a religion to be practiced.


I'm definitely a Christian, but I don't attend church because I just don't like trying to fit in, don't care to socialize, and definitely don't look the part. I've self limited myself through this in how I follow my beliefs. Metaphorically speaking, I'm shooting myself in the foot.


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01 Mar 2014, 3:34 pm

Conservative Christians cannot seem to grasp that when they talk about their "war on religion."


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01 Mar 2014, 5:34 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:
Raised southern baptist and rejected by my family when I came out. I had already dumped the church for how much they railed against me just did not tell my parents why until I had my own apartment since I knew I would be homeless if I had not made the preparations before coming out. They only spoke to me to tell me how awful I was for decades. Even now we speak very little.

I refuse to even walk into a church.

I am sorry your family was so cold and mean to you. I look back and think about those who left my ELCA congregation and wonder if any of their children or grandchildren will end up being gay. I do have a few people in my extended family who are Southern Baptist and who are strongly opposed to the "homosexual agenda." Living in Pennsylvania gives me a tremendous advantage because I don't really have to see them very much. I just have to dismiss them and say they are not Christian. They do not deserve me.


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11 Apr 2014, 4:51 pm

In the Bible I have been told that David & Jonathon were in Love and did stuff, and God didn't strike them down.


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