Jeez, some trans women can be extremely hateful to opponents

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18 Jan 2015, 11:01 am

http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/01/ ... swell-usa/

This is disgusting what Charity Caswell did to Cathy Brennan. He (and yes I will use "he" for this kind of person) deliberately tried to get Cathy Brennan to relive her horrible experience of being raped by a man and then posted her address to enable stalking and possibly more attacks.

Go to hell, Charity Caswell.


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18 Jan 2015, 8:05 pm

hmm.
i agree.

is Cathy against transman as well?
i can understand being against a transwoman though i'm a transwoman.

according to her blog's article, 'transgender ghouls for suicide and death', transwomen commit murder at the same rates as any other male.
it is shocking for me.

though i can trust a transwoman one half as much as a woman.
and i cannot trust a man 4 times than a transwoman.

hmm.
i hope i'm not as bad as one of transwomen who is discribed on a cathy's article.


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18 Jan 2015, 11:29 pm

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Jeez, Some Trans Women Can Be Extremely Hateful To Opponents.
I'm glad someone else noticed ...



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19 Jan 2015, 5:50 am

Yeah, there's one in the OP, I've noticed...

So, the news is... transwomen are human?

As for the whole issue re. murder, can I get a cite on that? Also, are they distinguishing between late and early transitioners, controlling for cultural effects? Is this localised to the United States, or found throughout the world?



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19 Jan 2015, 10:28 pm

Somewhat ironic, beneficil that in the top related topic we have you berating the 'male transgenders who won't get rid of their penises'. It seems the woman you link to in your original post isn't the only hage filled trans woman. You fit that bill quite nicely yourself.



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20 Jan 2015, 12:18 am

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Somewhat ironic, beneficil that in the top related topic we have you berating the 'male transgenders who won't get rid of their penises'. It seems the woman you link to in your original post isn't the only hage filled trans woman. You fit that bill quite nicely yourself.


What are you talking about?


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20 Jan 2015, 12:31 am

beneficii wrote:
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Somewhat ironic, beneficil that in the top related topic we have you berating the 'male transgenders who won't get rid of their penises'. It seems the woman you link to in your original post isn't the only hage filled trans woman. You fit that bill quite nicely yourself.


What are you talking about?


Nearly all of your posts in the last few weeks have been expressing your apparent contempt for transwomen. I don't know if you're trans or not, but if you are, you have some seriously internalized transmisogyny.



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20 Jan 2015, 8:35 am

hmm. i need not to worry a lot?
transwomen's murdering at the same rate as males is uncertain.
hm. if so, i can be relieved a lot. (:



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20 Jan 2015, 1:21 pm

beneficii wrote:
What are you talking about?


This:

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20 Jan 2015, 6:43 pm

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beneficii wrote:
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Somewhat ironic, beneficil that in the top related topic we have you berating the 'male transgenders who won't get rid of their penises'. It seems the woman you link to in your original post isn't the only hage filled trans woman. You fit that bill quite nicely yourself.


What are you talking about?


Nearly all of your posts in the last few weeks have been expressing your apparent contempt for transwomen. I don't know if you're trans or not, but if you are, you have some seriously internalized transmisogyny.


Let's just say I'm a trans person who is reaching "peak trans."


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20 Jan 2015, 11:46 pm

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Let's just say I'm a trans person who is reaching "peak trans."


You're a trans person reaching the peak of transphobia. Honestly, some of the comments I've seen coming from you I hear more from the likes of anti-trans bigots than I do actual trans people. Sometimes I have a few choice words of my own about the gay community and culture, but they're nowhere near to the extent of things you say time and time again on this website. At least, that's just the impression I'm continually getting from you.



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21 Jan 2015, 2:33 am

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beneficii wrote:
Let's just say I'm a trans person who is reaching "peak trans."


You're a trans person reaching the peak of transphobia. Honestly, some of the comments I've seen coming from you I hear more from the likes of anti-trans bigots than I do actual trans people. Sometimes I have a few choice words of my own about the gay community and culture, but they're nowhere near to the extent of things you say time and time again on this website. At least, that's just the impression I'm continually getting from you.


Beneficii has been very frustrated and I get that but I'm surprised by the hateful way she's reacting. A while ago she was complaining about being denied coverage for SRS. I could sympathize with her more back then. The way she's taking out her anger at other trans people in the most hate filled way possible has me totally shocked.



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21 Jan 2015, 11:05 am

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beneficii wrote:
Let's just say I'm a trans person who is reaching "peak trans."


You're a trans person reaching the peak of transphobia. Honestly, some of the comments I've seen coming from you I hear more from the likes of anti-trans bigots than I do actual trans people. Sometimes I have a few choice words of my own about the gay community and culture, but they're nowhere near to the extent of things you say time and time again on this website. At least, that's just the impression I'm continually getting from you.


Ah, yes, there's that word again: Transphobia.

What I've grown increasingly disgusted about is the actions of some in the trans community that are given a pass in the community, namely trans people who have taken no medical steps toward transition trying to get into opposite sex spaces, trying to say that somebody born with a penis was always a woman or somebody born with a vagina was always a man, the disregard for the concerns of women and girls regarding privacy, being ready to pull out the word "transphobia" whenever anyone expresses views opposing the goals of the trans community, the truly hateful tactics by trans activists verses opponents like mentioned in the OP where the trans person basically cheers on a woman having been raped, my own hateful actions toward opponents of goals the trans community has (such as funding sex reassignment), and many other things.

That is part of why I have reached trans peak.


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21 Jan 2015, 1:37 pm

SRS isn't required in order to have undertaken a medical transition... I wouldn't expect someone who's had SRS but is otherwise male to be using the women's toilets, but it would be strange for a woman who has undergone HRT but hasn't yet had SRS to use the men's toilets.

Alas, the English language is sub-optimal for discussing gender, due to it's reliance on binary terminology, not to mention the severe lack of thinking ability among most of it's speakers. How do you explain a concept such as polydimensional spectrum, as it pertains to sex and gender?

But no-one, I think, believes that an individual was *always* a man or woman. Always a boy or girl, yes, until they developed into a man or woman. A transwoman was 'always' a girl, until she develops into a woman. She never was a boy or man in terms of gender, but she was in terms of non-brain bodily sex. Hmmm, how to explain...



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21 Jan 2015, 4:14 pm

Magneto,

She was a boy until undergoing medical transition.

Anyway, another issue I have is the use of pronouns. Now for me, on first impression, it's about 50/50 whether I would be seen as a man or a woman, but after getting to know me a while, they will know I'm trans, and they will have developed a natural tendency to refer to me by male pronouns.

Of course, trans activists are aghast at such behavior and would expect me to enforce the use of female pronouns on those people, create a situation where they say "he--oh, I'm sorry, she" every dang time. But here's the thing, I don't wanna do that. If it be more natural for a person to refer to me by male pronouns, then let them refer to me as such, dang it!

I hate the way trans activists basically see it as a hate crime when somebody is simply undergoing a natural tendency with the use of pronouns, even if such tendency goes against the wishes of the person referred. I don't think anybody has the right to demand to be referred to in any particular way with regards to pronouns and I don't expect it from anyone in my life either.


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21 Jan 2015, 7:56 pm

I even had this in Japanese. When the Japanese person referred to me as kare ("he") before "correcting" herself and switching to kanojo ("she"). I had made no special request regarding pronouns.


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