This helps confirm how I believe I am perceived
and, in theory, I accept that some trans women must be like that also
although I’ve never met one
http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/02/ ... slate-usa/
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
Everyone misgenders me, so I am definitely not one of those who is "all the way legit." However, I don't think anything is wrong with the people who misgender me: They are simply following their natural inclinations.
My sister, who is a bit more inclined to be honest about me, says I come across as a disgusting and contemptible man-woman.
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
However, unless you began hormone treatments before puberty, you likely have a generally masculine profile - broad shoulders, narrow hips, prominent brow ridges and lower jaw, et cetera.
Just be you; that's all that matters.
And what would you characterize as me?
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
Do you really need any other category?
I don't.
Do you really need any other category?
I don't.
That's a rather vague category.
I am sure you do not consider yourself in such a vague way, as you would likely have little tolerance for the use of feminine pronouns to refer to you.
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
and, in theory, I accept that some trans women must be like that also
although I’ve never met one
http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/02/ ... slate-usa/
As I strive to make an effort to be mindful of a persons body language, here is my observation on this subject.
Many male to female transexuals try too hard to be feminine and end up adopting gestures, body language, and behaviors which are characatures of female stereotyped mannerisms. They endulge themselves in feminine things in ways, and to extents, that biological born women generally do not actually do.
For example, I have seen many transexual men wave their hands around in a frantic, giddy, or limp wristed fashion. Socialite women of the turn of the last century might have done this but modern biological women generally don't. Modern women are not big consumers of space or dynamics. They tend to keep their limbs close to their body when sitting in public areas....because they are cold or don't want to accidentally touch a stranger, and their legs are at such an angle due to having wider hips that it's often more comfortable for them to knees together or even cross their legs such that the underside of the top knee rests on the top of the knee of the lower leg.
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Er what? Transsexual men wouldn't want to be percieved as feminine... are you thinking of transwomen?
It's hardly unsurprising, though - late-trasitioning transwomen won't have been socialised as women. People's mannerisms won't change just because they're taking different hormones (well, to an extent they will).
and, in theory, I accept that some trans women must be like that also
although I’ve never met one
http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/02/ ... slate-usa/
As I strive to make an effort to be mindful of a persons body language, here is my observation on this subject.
Many male to female transexuals try too hard to be feminine and end up adopting gestures, body language, and behaviors which are characatures of female stereotyped mannerisms. They endulge themselves in feminine things in ways, and to extents, that biological born women generally do not actually do.
For example, I have seen many transexual men wave their hands around in a frantic, giddy, or limp wristed fashion. Socialite women of the turn of the last century might have done this but modern biological women generally don't.
Not a problem for me.
I do largely the same things. I have been noted to have very flexible legs and can even double-cross my legs. I remember in middle school being criticized for crossing my legs like that: "Aren't you crushing your balls by doing that?" But sitting like that has brought no discomfort to me.
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"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin
My sister, who is a bit more inclined to be honest about me, says I come across as a disgusting and contemptible man-woman.
Maybe it's just me but.... siblings say stuff like this to each other all the time.
and, in theory, I accept that some trans women must be like that also
although I’ve never met one
http://genderidentitywatch.com/2015/02/ ... slate-usa/
As I strive to make an effort to be mindful of a persons body language, here is my observation on this subject.
Many male to female transexuals try too hard to be feminine and end up adopting gestures, body language, and behaviors which are characatures of female stereotyped mannerisms. They endulge themselves in feminine things in ways, and to extents, that biological born women generally do not actually do.
For example, I have seen many transexual men wave their hands around in a frantic, giddy, or limp wristed fashion. Socialite women of the turn of the last century might have done this but modern biological women generally don't. Modern women are not big consumers of space or dynamics. They tend to keep their limbs close to their body when sitting in public areas....because they are cold or don't want to accidentally touch a stranger, and their legs are at such an angle due to having wider hips that it's often more comfortable for them to knees together or even cross their legs such that the underside of the top knee rests on the top of the knee of the lower leg.
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Um, I'm cis and that's nonsense. I take up space all the time, intentionally and without remorse. I sit with my legs wide apart and I'm loud. Sometimes I'm quiet and take up less space - that's because I literally don't have a lot of space to move, usually because its crowded. I don't see how any of this stuff you mention is innate to femininity.
You're also responding to a general observation with an anecdote... also, the post didn't claim that they're innate, just that they're a tendency.
The more feminine an individual appears, the less feminine their mannerisms can be, because people aren't going to think a feminine-appearing woman is trans just because she has some masculine mannerisms. But if she has significant masculine features...