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22 Aug 2016, 11:44 pm
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23 Aug 2016, 8:20 pm
C2V wrote:
Ugh. He completely lost me with the words "you should hate."
Anyone who says those words instantly loses all credibility. Anyone who says those words and then rants about how wrong the hateful actions of others are (in his opinion) tragically misses the whole point.
I don't agree with the viewpoints of Islamic or Christian religion either. But that is not enough of a reason to hate them. I'm fine with the whole world not thinking exactly the way I do.
The problem with this guy is he is just more of the same. In a way, an arm of the same thing he's ranting about. He's not trying to understand, not trying to be compassionate towards people and ideologies that are difficult, not trying to help, not trying to respond to a very complicated subject with anything more insightful and genuine than generalisations and stereotyping. Do you think this guy has ever actually spoken to a Muslim? He's just adding more rhetoric, more noise, more instigation that includes the words "you should hate." He's a scare-mongerer.
That never helped anything, or anyone.
As for people hating you for being queer - of course not everyone does. Or ever will. Attitudes change over time and place. And no one, anywhere, is ever guaranteed safety, gay or not. I don't believe in a creator god so don't believe one created us to be queer. It just is - an effect of biology. Thus, being gay isn't the only reason people will find to start a fight, or target you. Any excuse seems to do. I wouldn't blame being gay for the root cause of people's problems with one another. Indoctrination is all very well, but people can think for themselves with a bit more effort. Just because they may have been told to hate gays doesn't mean they will.
Forgive my inabilities with sarcasm - because I hope this is meant to be sarcastic. Because that is directly the opposite of the way to make yourself, or anyone else, safe. Just look at the parts of the world that embrace this sentiment and then say they're the most peaceful, enlightened, safe places on earth.
Like this guy similarly misses the point, you can't really proverbially have your cake and eat it too by saying the only way to end intolerance and violence is by being intolerant and violent.
I don't understand the logic behind much of this western-aimed scare-mongering. So what if certain Muslims believe in criminalising homosexuality? Many Muslims do not believe in criminalising it, and even if they did, not every person in this world is Muslim or believes so. They appear to be trying to scare you, and create generalised hatred for Muslims and Islam, by threatening something that can never happen.
Media like this has an agenda. And western media agenda has become increasingly transparent recently.
I don't think you need be paranoid, and certainly not believe the one-sided, agenda-laden reports such as this as the whole truth. Just be careful and sensible as you ordinarily would about being open with your sexuality / gender in accordance with your situation. These sorts of reports aim to incite - to manipulate people emotionally into hating others by convincing them they hate them. I wouldn't let the, do it to you this easily.
Anyone who says those words instantly loses all credibility. Anyone who says those words and then rants about how wrong the hateful actions of others are (in his opinion) tragically misses the whole point.
I don't agree with the viewpoints of Islamic or Christian religion either. But that is not enough of a reason to hate them. I'm fine with the whole world not thinking exactly the way I do.
The problem with this guy is he is just more of the same. In a way, an arm of the same thing he's ranting about. He's not trying to understand, not trying to be compassionate towards people and ideologies that are difficult, not trying to help, not trying to respond to a very complicated subject with anything more insightful and genuine than generalisations and stereotyping. Do you think this guy has ever actually spoken to a Muslim? He's just adding more rhetoric, more noise, more instigation that includes the words "you should hate." He's a scare-mongerer.
That never helped anything, or anyone.
As for people hating you for being queer - of course not everyone does. Or ever will. Attitudes change over time and place. And no one, anywhere, is ever guaranteed safety, gay or not. I don't believe in a creator god so don't believe one created us to be queer. It just is - an effect of biology. Thus, being gay isn't the only reason people will find to start a fight, or target you. Any excuse seems to do. I wouldn't blame being gay for the root cause of people's problems with one another. Indoctrination is all very well, but people can think for themselves with a bit more effort. Just because they may have been told to hate gays doesn't mean they will.
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Buy a gun, trust no one, and shoot whoever is willing to harass or hurt you for being what you are.
Do that and you will always be safe. It's as simple as that.
Do that and you will always be safe. It's as simple as that.
Forgive my inabilities with sarcasm - because I hope this is meant to be sarcastic. Because that is directly the opposite of the way to make yourself, or anyone else, safe. Just look at the parts of the world that embrace this sentiment and then say they're the most peaceful, enlightened, safe places on earth.
Like this guy similarly misses the point, you can't really proverbially have your cake and eat it too by saying the only way to end intolerance and violence is by being intolerant and violent.
I don't understand the logic behind much of this western-aimed scare-mongering. So what if certain Muslims believe in criminalising homosexuality? Many Muslims do not believe in criminalising it, and even if they did, not every person in this world is Muslim or believes so. They appear to be trying to scare you, and create generalised hatred for Muslims and Islam, by threatening something that can never happen.
Media like this has an agenda. And western media agenda has become increasingly transparent recently.
I don't think you need be paranoid, and certainly not believe the one-sided, agenda-laden reports such as this as the whole truth. Just be careful and sensible as you ordinarily would about being open with your sexuality / gender in accordance with your situation. These sorts of reports aim to incite - to manipulate people emotionally into hating others by convincing them they hate them. I wouldn't let the, do it to you this easily.
A very solid point you have there!
It appears that this Paul Joseph Watson fellow is throwing boomerangs; he thows them in hopes of of achieving whatever fearmongering he has in mind only to find that same boomerang hitting him back twice as hard (since you have a hard time with metaphors and figurative language, I'll explain what I mean; he seems to be using a logic to attack Muslims and the Islamic faith that seems to go against him at the same time.)I'll admit, I was in kind of a hopeless mood after receiving a somewhat over-protective comment from my father. (commenting how I might get bullied upon for being my usual, gothic self. Bullcrap!
) Consider this a "blowing off steam" thread, made for the sole purpose of finding out what how wrong or right my ideas at the moment seemed.And sadly, no, I wasn't sarcastic.
Like I've said, I was in a state of pessimism, so naturally a few unethical comments slipped out of my mouth out of frustration.Actually, after a while, I thought to myself "why do I have to buy a gun? Can't a can of pepper spray or a pellet gun be enough?".
Guess I learned my lesson there.
23 Aug 2016, 8:29 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
Just ask yourself: why should anybody hate me?
YouTube is a poor source for many things, I find. Especially for answers to this question you posed.
People just sprout off on the mouth about anything and everything on YouTube. Lots of garbage!
Think objectively...and you'll find that you have at least some redeeming qualities.
YouTube is a poor source for many things, I find. Especially for answers to this question you posed.
People just sprout off on the mouth about anything and everything on YouTube. Lots of garbage!
Think objectively...and you'll find that you have at least some redeeming qualities.
It took me a while to realize that. I had my suspicious about that Paul Joseph Watson guy, especially after I talked to my mother about the idea behind those videos. (she found them to be pretty racist
)Yeah, It's really hard to distinguish trash and gold on YouTube these days, with so many lying bastards and people getting sponsered by various different companies, both of which have with their own agendas.
I guess YouTube is better off as a place of entertainment rather than a means of propaganda. Guess I better clean up my subscriptions.
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