Spinetrak wrote:
I always hated the term 'emo' itself, though I like bands like Rites of Spring, Embrace, early Fugazi (first wave emo, mid '80s), Sunny Day Real Estate (second wave, early-mid '90s). The third wave of 'emo' (late '90s) had some fun bands, like the Promise Ring or Jejune, but this is where it all started to go downhill. Now I guess it's the fourth wave we see and yeah, it sucks, big time.
And what about screamo, eh ? Swing Kids, Mohinder, Palatka, as*hole Parade etc. These were great bands (or at least I liked them when I was a teenager. Since then I got more sophisticated
).
Real Screamo died when the Blood Brothers broke up last year (they were quite possibly the most polarizing band i've ever seen in my life).
For one here's what the timeline of Emo is (this doesn't include every band but gives you a good idea):
1st Wave: Rites of Spring, Fugazi
2nd Wave: Sunny Day Real Estate,
Pinkerton era-Weezer (unconsciously), early Modest Mouse, Cursive MK1 (1995-1998), Texas is the Reason
3rd Wave: Jimmy Eat World, Promise Ring, Braid, Cursive MK2 (1999-present), pre-
CassadagaBright Eyes, At the Drive-In, Piebald
4th Wave: Blood Brothers, The Starting Line, Say Anything, Straylight Run, Sparta, Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.
"Emo" (around the same time as 4th wave and makes it hard to distinguish between the two. This is the fake emo that most people identify as being apart of the genre): My Chemical Romance,
Senses Fail, Hawthorne Heights, Fall Out Boy, The Spill Canvas, Madina Lake,
The Red Jumpsuit ApparatusUnder debate: Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional,
Not Emo: Panic at the Disco (this of course doesn't mean they're any good), Coheed & Cambria (are a prog rock band), Modest Mouse after
The Moon & AntarcticaThe "emo" bands are similar to the numerous post-grunge acts that flooded alternative rock airwaves after the success of Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam (the big 5 of Seattle). These "post-grunge" bands are bands like Candlebox, Live, Collective Soul and other bands that mean absolutely nothing today (and some like The Toadies and Cake that survived and proved to be successful and critically acclaimed). What happened was that after Jimmy Eat World's
Bleed American became huge, labels snapped up every band that sounded similar to them. This is how Fall Out Boy - whose first two albums were alright - suddenly made a huge jump to fake emo. The same thing happened to "grungy" sounding acts after Nirvana hit in '91, Pop-punk acts after Green Day hit in '94, and in Britian (with better results), "britpop" acts after the success of the Stone Roses in '89 (this of course gave rise to Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Radiohead and Supergrass. Great bands all. This is basically the only time that a rush like this resulted in a good thing in the past 20 years).
green day are still okay sum 41's new album was underdone i agree, never really liked blink 182 they aren't real punk in my opnion. fall out boy has two punkish songs other than that blah. now about what i bolded senses fail and red jump suit aparatus being emo i take offence to that cuz they last albums were post punk hardcore their new albums only have one good song on them that is post punk hardcore the rest is emo pop but the 06 and 08 senses fail albums are pretty good tho some stuff sounds emo and red jmp suit's 07 album is a mix of post punk hardcore, punk and altettetive and one emo song guidian angel the new albums for both bands suck tho they are emo pop. green day's new album does not sound bad based on the single but it does not sound like it was worth the five year wait for. i look forward to rancid, nofx, eve 6, silverstein, mxpx, anti flag and billy talent new cds by all these great punk artists