Since when was "Emo" a bad thing huh?!?!?

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31 Jul 2008, 11:05 am

digger1 wrote:
HiM is emo.


HIM is not, they are christan rock/love metal.



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31 Jul 2008, 12:14 pm

xdragonxninjaxpowax wrote:
digger1 wrote:
HiM is emo.


HIM is not, they are christan rock/love metal.


How exactly is a band essentially named after satan a Christian rock band?


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31 Jul 2008, 2:36 pm

xdragonxninjaxpowax wrote:
HIM is not, they are christan rockal.


...say WHAT??



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31 Jul 2008, 5:58 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
The word "emo" sounds a bit like Elmo.
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But don't say that in front of a serious emo. Theres one who I know at High would smack you silly if you said anything like that.



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31 Jul 2008, 7:54 pm

I was going to go on for a bit about the general misconception that 'emo' is the domain of the tight-trousered, flappy-fringed fashion-victim types, but then I realise I call them emos all the time... oops :(

But I think the boundaries are slowly becoming more and more defined again as the vile fashion trend is encroaching its way into other genres of music and creating utterly horrible cross-genre hybrids... genres of music seemingly born out of the fashion scene alone.
Anybody on here familiar with deathcore? The genre of music home to bands such as Bring Me The Horizon, Parkway Drive and Suicide Silence. A splicing of 'hardcore' (i.e. heavy fashion-victim music, not proper hardcore like Bad Brains) and death metal, which basically ends up sounding like black metal played at extremely diminished speed, but with half the talent and all the bands wearing the usual get-up of trendy t-shirts, tight jeans and stupid asymmetric fringes.
Or EmoBM (Emo Body Music)? Although that's more of an in-joke than anything else at the moment... thankfully. :twisted:



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31 Jul 2008, 8:38 pm

There is nothing wrong with being an Emo, or Goth Lite, they do tend to be an easy target for ridicule, which is not fair. Its just one of those fads teens go though, like Goth or Grunge, or 80's flock of Seagulls Hair :lol: I was into Punk as a teenager, and got ridiculed for wearing black jeans and black t shirts by all the disco fags, in their white polyester fagwear, this was in 1977-78 in a town that only started to listen to new wave in 1979, because it sounded like disco. Nothing wrong with not conforming to established social norms, just have fun, or as an Emo be sad and gloomy :( because its all good.



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10 Apr 2009, 10:14 am

If I hear one more person call Bright Eyes Emo, I am going to scream. (Ha ha.) This isn't something that I comprehend at all. Same with Modest Mouse. The music isn't emo sounding at all- it's roots are more country, folk, indie rock. Just because you sing about something personal with feeling does not make you emo. If that were the case, then like eighty percent of music would be emo. Last time I checked, that's generally what songs tend to be about- an outlet for emotion. It's like calling poetry 'emo.' Or art.

It's a silly term, plain and simple.


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10 Apr 2009, 1:20 pm

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If I hear one more person call Bright Eyes Emo, I am going to scream. (Ha ha.) This isn't something that I comprehend at all. Same with Modest Mouse. The music isn't emo sounding at all- it's roots are more country, folk, indie rock. Just because you sing about something personal with feeling does not make you emo. If that were the case, then like eighty percent of music would be emo. Last time I checked, that's generally what songs tend to be about- an outlet for emotion. It's like calling poetry 'emo.' Or art.

It's a silly term, plain and simple.


Allmusic, one of the most respected music review sites in the world calls Modest Mouse's early releases "emo", but back in 1995 and 1996, that term had a different meaning. Way back then, good bands like Sunny Day Real Estate were considered emo, before whiny pop punk bands flooded the genre. This of course, does not stop them from being wrong.

Also, like i've always said, My Chemical Romance and their ilk are emo as Avril Lavigne is punk, which means they aren't at all.


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10 Apr 2009, 1:45 pm

Yes, so I see that they say that, but I still maintain that it is a silly term. If you can group early Modest Mouse, which is exceedingly folky, with a band like Quicksand, I don't consider it to be all that legitimate of a classification. But I guess Indie is a pretty sweeping term as well. Maybe I'm just prejudiced against the term, for one, because people use it in a disdainful fashion; for two, because when you say 'emo' most people think bands like My Chemical Romance, so when someone says, "Modest Mouse is emo," or "Bright Eyes is emo," it certainly sounds like they are equating it with bands like My Chemical Romance. For three, because I don't think it's all that appropriate. As I said, singing with emotion is pretty dang typical across the board. But I get your point.


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10 Apr 2009, 2:44 pm

i didnt know emo was a word back then????
the first time i heard of that word was my freshman year which was 05-06 school year.
idk cuz when i think of the word emo i think of people who have layed short hair, side bangs, band-t's, likes techno & emo/screamo music duhhh and lots more stuff but i add people like that on myspace and there really mean people i dont like them or maybe cuz there myspace whores who dress emo idk but the stuff they talk about makes me laugh sometimes.
and i really hate when people start calling bands who are not emo but they put them in the catergory of emo cuz they dress like it but there music sounds nothing like emo thats what i hate!! !
my friend thinks matchbox twenty is emo!! !
i mean come on what is this world coming too seriously???
theres some emo bands i like but i definately hate screamo music i used to but i hate music that screams now.



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19 Apr 2009, 12:40 am

kaitlyn_loves_music wrote:
i didnt know emo was a word back then????


Yeah, emo has been a genre since the late 80's when it was applied to bands like Fugazi and Sunny Day Real Estate who are the farthest thing from what passes as "emo" now.


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19 Apr 2009, 12:46 am

my thing with emo, it strikes me as a "poser" metal, try to both be heavy metal and punk, satisfying neither. Real punk is violent and a half step away from a right, Metal is primal anger that is internalized. Emo is angst and sadness interalized.


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20 Apr 2009, 10:02 pm

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I always hated the term 'emo' itself, though I like bands like Rites of Spring, Embrace, early Fugazi (first wave emo, mid '80s), Sunny Day Real Estate (second wave, early-mid '90s). The third wave of 'emo' (late '90s) had some fun bands, like the Promise Ring or Jejune, but this is where it all started to go downhill. Now I guess it's the fourth wave we see and yeah, it sucks, big time.

And what about screamo, eh ? Swing Kids, Mohinder, Palatka, as*hole Parade etc. These were great bands (or at least I liked them when I was a teenager. Since then I got more sophisticated :D).


Real Screamo died when the Blood Brothers broke up last year (they were quite possibly the most polarizing band i've ever seen in my life).

For one here's what the timeline of Emo is (this doesn't include every band but gives you a good idea):

1st Wave: Rites of Spring, Fugazi
2nd Wave: Sunny Day Real Estate, Pinkerton era-Weezer (unconsciously), early Modest Mouse, Cursive MK1 (1995-1998), Texas is the Reason
3rd Wave: Jimmy Eat World, Promise Ring, Braid, Cursive MK2 (1999-present), pre-CassadagaBright Eyes, At the Drive-In, Piebald
4th Wave: Blood Brothers, The Starting Line, Say Anything, Straylight Run, Sparta, Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly.
"Emo" (around the same time as 4th wave and makes it hard to distinguish between the two. This is the fake emo that most people identify as being apart of the genre): My Chemical Romance, Senses Fail, Hawthorne Heights, Fall Out Boy, The Spill Canvas, Madina Lake, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Under debate: Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional,
Not Emo: Panic at the Disco (this of course doesn't mean they're any good), Coheed & Cambria (are a prog rock band), Modest Mouse after The Moon & Antarctica

The "emo" bands are similar to the numerous post-grunge acts that flooded alternative rock airwaves after the success of Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam (the big 5 of Seattle). These "post-grunge" bands are bands like Candlebox, Live, Collective Soul and other bands that mean absolutely nothing today (and some like The Toadies and Cake that survived and proved to be successful and critically acclaimed). What happened was that after Jimmy Eat World's Bleed American became huge, labels snapped up every band that sounded similar to them. This is how Fall Out Boy - whose first two albums were alright - suddenly made a huge jump to fake emo. The same thing happened to "grungy" sounding acts after Nirvana hit in '91, Pop-punk acts after Green Day hit in '94, and in Britian (with better results), "britpop" acts after the success of the Stone Roses in '89 (this of course gave rise to Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Radiohead and Supergrass. Great bands all. This is basically the only time that a rush like this resulted in a good thing in the past 20 years).


green day are still okay sum 41's new album was underdone i agree, never really liked blink 182 they aren't real punk in my opnion. fall out boy has two punkish songs other than that blah. now about what i bolded senses fail and red jump suit aparatus being emo i take offence to that cuz they last albums were post punk hardcore their new albums only have one good song on them that is post punk hardcore the rest is emo pop but the 06 and 08 senses fail albums are pretty good tho some stuff sounds emo and red jmp suit's 07 album is a mix of post punk hardcore, punk and altettetive and one emo song guidian angel the new albums for both bands suck tho they are emo pop. green day's new album does not sound bad based on the single but it does not sound like it was worth the five year wait for. i look forward to rancid, nofx, eve 6, silverstein, mxpx, anti flag and billy talent new cds by all these great punk artists



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21 Apr 2009, 12:39 am

Bands like Rites of Spring and Embrace are the only bands that are emo to me. Jawbreaker is pending...
All this 2nd wave, 3rd wave, 4th wave I don't believe in.



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12 May 2009, 2:21 pm

Judging by these posts I am assuming no one here is Emo, my cousins into that "emo" stuff, she's into Underoath and stuff, I don't know if that's considered emo.

When I think of emos, I think of pale anorexic kids with black straighten hair, tight jeans, converse shoes, I guess they dress like a sad punk, but I don't think as cutting wrists.

I hate how they get all mad when you make like emo jokes or if you happen to like the same band as them! Why is there certain requirements to like a band or clothing!? Then they say they hate stereotypes when the stereotype themselves like they assume preppy people are sl*ts. My cousin HATES Miley Cyrus and she tells me because she can't sing and she says she's a sl*t.

I don't know if emos are the only ones who do it, but you got these people who spend their whole life bashing Miley, these people NEVER even met the girl, she could be a saint for all they know!


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12 May 2009, 8:29 pm

In my opinion, they're just a bunch of morons. Don't listen to emo-hating trash.


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