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13 Jan 2010, 6:44 pm

Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f*****g the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.


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13 Jan 2010, 6:56 pm

Shouldn't this be in PPR?

I listen to death metal. My dad's a church guy, I'm not really, but we had a mutual friend who did Christian 'black' metal. 14 min tracks of nothing but screaming, and what words you could make out were bible verses. I have to admit, was very cool to hear the Bible that way.

Anyway, if you're happy with it, congrats on the conversion.


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13 Jan 2010, 9:03 pm

I've always found that music, just pure music, makes me happy.

Like CowboyFromHell said, melodic music, specifically melodic death metal, would be awesome for you. Insomnium anyone?



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13 Jan 2010, 9:56 pm

CowboyFromHell wrote:
Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f***ing the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.



I agree with ya on this. People do need to keep an open mind about music


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17 Jan 2010, 4:17 pm

firebird93 wrote:
Overall, I feel very happy with my lifestyle changes, and I want to continue living this way. I'm also glad that Jesus was there to help me, otherwise I would have been lost forever. So what do you people who might be reading this think? Pretty amazing story, huh?


Good on you for making positive changes to your life.
I do find a fair bit of popular culture and counter-culture a bit too negative myself, and death metal would be one of the most extreme examples.
But even so I still occasionally check out death metal tracks on youtube. I always find the lyrics incomprehensible, and I find all that growling and speed drumming oddly amusing.
But then when you look at the band names, the album covers and the lyrics, a lot of it is pretty unpleasant.
Perhaps I also need to find some more life-affirming heavy metal to listen to!



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17 Jan 2010, 5:32 pm

CowboyFromHell wrote:
Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f***ing the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.



well, could introduce the OP to As I lay dying. Metalcore yes, but the OP should appreciate it for the heavily christian inspired lyrics.


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19 Jan 2010, 2:35 pm

CowboyFromHell wrote:
Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f***ing the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.


Lucky for you, I would never slit anyone's throat, no matter how angry I get. Which doesn't seem very often anymore. The reason I gave up the morbidly violent stuff was because it was making me depressed and it sounded ungodly. Of course, I would never do what the lyrics are saying, I was just thinking that this has got to stop. Because, I'm a nice guy, loving and caring, but the music I used to listen to wasn't, so I gave it up.



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19 Jan 2010, 3:46 pm

firebird93 wrote:
CowboyFromHell wrote:
Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f***ing the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.


Lucky for you, I would never slit anyone's throat, no matter how angry I get. Which doesn't seem very often anymore. The reason I gave up the morbidly violent stuff was because it was making me depressed and it sounded ungodly. Of course, I would never do what the lyrics are saying, I was just thinking that this has got to stop. Because, I'm a nice guy, loving and caring, but the music I used to listen to wasn't, so I gave it up.


right on man. Thats how i was too. I used to have a really dark personality with heavy metal and stuff. And then i started going to church again and i dont really ever have negative feelings or thoughts anymore.



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19 Jan 2010, 4:31 pm

marchingmaniac wrote:
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CowboyFromHell wrote:
Yo Mister First Post Maker, firebird93:

I noticed you still wanna keep the metal going, but you wanna go easy on lyrics. If you like BFMV...
It seems metalcore is quite unpopular here judging by a few previous metal threads I've posted it, but a lot of this recent melodic stuff would go great with you. It's not Christian stuff, but from the majority of my favorite metalcore music has upbeat meanings. A lot of the lyrics seem to be about standing up for your beliefs and strength of character. All That Remains is good for that stuff, so is Five Finger Death Punch.

And don't let lyrics turn you away, though. My way of drawing the line is "not meaning" what I am listening to. I really don't know how to explain it, I just take the lyrics for granted and I have a "don't give a damn" attitude about not letting the stuff get to me. Now if you were to listen to a song about slitting someone's throat and f***ing the spot where that was done, and then thinking, "Yeah, that's a damn good idea," then you've got a problem and I am pretty sure you're going to Hell.

Don't let the Christian extremists scare you, they are good for that... "scare tactics." My beliefs are based on the Christian religion but I don't classify myself as technically part of an actual religion anymore, because of the arrogance with many groups.


Lucky for you, I would never slit anyone's throat, no matter how angry I get. Which doesn't seem very often anymore. The reason I gave up the morbidly violent stuff was because it was making me depressed and it sounded ungodly. Of course, I would never do what the lyrics are saying, I was just thinking that this has got to stop. Because, I'm a nice guy, loving and caring, but the music I used to listen to wasn't, so I gave it up.


right on man. Thats how i was too. I used to have a really dark personality with heavy metal and stuff. And then i started going to church again and i dont really ever have negative feelings or thoughts anymore.


That's always good to hear. Now that I've renewed my faith, I don't think I'll ever go back to that lifestyle again. I'm done with stuff like Lamb Of God, Necrophagist and Cannibal Corpse (Cannibal Corpse especially).



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20 Jan 2010, 1:30 am

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Before I joined the church that I'm currently going to now, I didn't have a lot of faith in Jesus. I was kind of sad, lonely, and wanted to find some friends and even tried to do stuff to look cool. One thing I would do to relieve my sadness was to listen to this very dark, misanthropic death-metal music. I wasn't really paying much attention to the lyrics at the time. I used to think that the lyrics were just words that didn't mean anything, but boy I was wrong. However, I did know not to listen to anything blasphemous, so if I detected some stuff that was anti-christian in the song lyrics, I'd stop listening to it. The music I listened to was morbidly violent and talked about subjects such as murder, disembowelment and mutilation that others might find pretty disturbing. It wasn't blasphemous, it was just violent. I just liked the way it sounded because it was so insanely angry with brutal guitar riffs. I listened to this stuff for a period of at least six months. From May of 2009 to early December of 2009. During the time as the summer was ending, my family and I weren't officially members of the church that we currently are now. It was during the week before my baptism that I decided that if I were to become a member of this church, I would have to give up this angry death metal music, and I did. Didn't think I could do it at first, but I did, and I'm proud of it. Now days I listen to more positive stuff like The Beatles. I still like metal music like Metallica, Bullet For My Valentine, Breaking Benjamin (though that really isn't heavy metal) and Disturbed. There are also two christian metal bands that I really like called Demon Hunter and As I Lay Dying. Overall, I feel very happy with my lifestyle changes, and I want to continue living this way. I'm also glad that Jesus was there to help me, otherwise I would have been lost forever. So what do you people who might be reading this think? Pretty amazing story, huh?


I have to admit it's a noble feat to give up that lifestyle choice but you can still appreciate the musicality of the death metal scene. For example, take 'Death'. Chuck Schlunider was perhaps one of the greatest metal musicians that has graced this planet, wrote Death metal stuff but was still an excellent musician.



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20 Jan 2010, 4:09 pm

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Before I joined the church that I'm currently going to now, I didn't have a lot of faith in Jesus. I was kind of sad, lonely, and wanted to find some friends and even tried to do stuff to look cool. One thing I would do to relieve my sadness was to listen to this very dark, misanthropic death-metal music. I wasn't really paying much attention to the lyrics at the time. I used to think that the lyrics were just words that didn't mean anything, but boy I was wrong. However, I did know not to listen to anything blasphemous, so if I detected some stuff that was anti-christian in the song lyrics, I'd stop listening to it. The music I listened to was morbidly violent and talked about subjects such as murder, disembowelment and mutilation that others might find pretty disturbing. It wasn't blasphemous, it was just violent. I just liked the way it sounded because it was so insanely angry with brutal guitar riffs. I listened to this stuff for a period of at least six months. From May of 2009 to early December of 2009. During the time as the summer was ending, my family and I weren't officially members of the church that we currently are now. It was during the week before my baptism that I decided that if I were to become a member of this church, I would have to give up this angry death metal music, and I did. Didn't think I could do it at first, but I did, and I'm proud of it. Now days I listen to more positive stuff like The Beatles. I still like metal music like Metallica, Bullet For My Valentine, Breaking Benjamin (though that really isn't heavy metal) and Disturbed. There are also two christian metal bands that I really like called Demon Hunter and As I Lay Dying. Overall, I feel very happy with my lifestyle changes, and I want to continue living this way. I'm also glad that Jesus was there to help me, otherwise I would have been lost forever. So what do you people who might be reading this think? Pretty amazing story, huh?


way to go man! that is how Jesus would want it to be. He understands that sometimes people lose the way but all is forgiven in time. And from personal experience myself that is a very very huge step. And God has noticed that God and his son Jesus will be with you every step of the way. That is a amazing choice. Skillet. Skillet is good. By far the best christian metal band very hard stuff. But yeah if you ever want someone to talk to send me a message or something. I can talk about finding the love of Christ in you and letting you know that he is with you wherever he goes. I know alot about that kind of stuff i myself am the president of my church youth group. So please whenever you want send me a message or something i am very interested in how this works out.


Dude, I love Skillet. Thank you so much for mentioning them. I like their song Monster because it reminds me of my former life.



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20 Jan 2010, 7:44 pm

Death metal isn't misanthropic or angry.

You mad?

"I'm not very proud of myself if I lose my temper. That's something I would love to be able to change. I've worked on it throughout my life and hope to eventually have it conquered and react as peacefully as Gandhi in the worst situation."

"I just like the really low budget splatter. It's fun. And I like high budget psychological horror like Jacob's Ladder and The Shining. Everything's entertaining for different reasons. Here's kinda the way I see it: you can appreciate a lot of different things for what they are. Like, we're obviously a much different type of death metal band from, say, My Dying Bride or something like that, but there's no reason you can't appreciate both of them for what they are. I like Anathema and My Dying Bride. I also like Morbid Angel and Vader, and I also like us and Autopsy - of course I like us! I'm in the band! You know what I mean. It's good for what it is. When I see a movie like Evil Dead I don't expect it to be like The Shining, just like a person who likes Cannibal Corpse. They shouldn't expect us to be like Anathema. You know what I'm saying? But they can like us for being... the Evil Dead of death metal! [laughs] And they can like those other bands for being more psychological or whatnot."
- Alex Webster, Bassist for Cannibal Corpse.

You'll be wanting to avoid DEATH though, every other song was an attack on religion lol.

And you will want to avoid black metal.

And the composer Wagner.

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21 Jan 2010, 3:30 pm

There are alot of bands out there who use heavy metal to promote religion or other variouis positive motifs, you just have to find them.

Most of the ones you find who just sing about brutality and gore and whatever are generally boring. :|

Either way, metal =/= anti christ.


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21 Jan 2010, 8:08 pm

Most of these guys are just out to shock people, kind of like Slayer or Venom. I wouldn't read too much into it. Black metal has a few shady if not downright nasty characters but for all but the most obscure artists you don't even have to buy their music if you want it.



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Overall, I feel very happy with my lifestyle changes, and I want to continue living this way. I'm also glad that Jesus was there to help me, otherwise I would have been lost forever. So what do you people who might be reading this think? Pretty amazing story, huh?


Good on you for making positive changes to your life.
I do find a fair bit of popular culture and counter-culture a bit too negative myself, and death metal would be one of the most extreme examples.
But even so I still occasionally check out death metal tracks on youtube. I always find the lyrics incomprehensible, and I find all that growling and speed drumming oddly amusing.
But then when you look at the band names, the album covers and the lyrics, a lot of it is pretty unpleasant.
Perhaps I also need to find some more life-affirming heavy metal to listen to!


Unpleasant lyrics is a very good way to put it. Some of the bands like Cannibal Corpse have some of the most vile, hateful, brutal, sadistic and despicable lyrics you can think of. I'm glad I've turned away from Cannibal Corpse because they're possibly the most creepiest band out there. I wouldn't say they're satanic or anything like that, I'd just say that they're violent and hateful, and they do push the envelope with the violent lyrics quite a bit.