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22 May 2012, 9:06 pm

I also learn music better by ear than by sheet music. Luckily for me, the instrument I am learning, you really gotta have the music memorized instead of playing it off the sheet. For one, there is no way to turn the pages in sheet music when you are busy marching, have both hands occupied with the chanter, and the (usually) left arm maintaining constant pressure....



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23 May 2012, 12:00 am

In "Mr. Holland's Opus" (Netflix or Redbox if you haven't seen) there's a line where the girl is stinking up the passage and he asks her what's the most beautiful thing she's ever seen, and she says a sunset. He tells her 'play the sunset'

The sunset is notated on paper so a blind person can see it



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23 May 2012, 7:37 am

For learning to play by ear, I think that even tab is more trouble than it's worth. Learn the chords, find chord charts for some songs you know, and start playing along.

For what it's worth, "music theory" is actually going to do more for you playing by ear than it is if you're playing from notation. Playing by ear (from chord charts), when you see that you're supposed to play a Gmin9 chord at some point in the song, with a little music theory, you can figure out what that is and how to make that chord. Playing from notation (on piano, anyway), it will tell you what the notes are, it may not even include the chord name.

I don't know if you're involved in a church at all, but there's a whole "contemporary worship" thing going on these days; the songs tend to be fairly simple, chord charts are pretty easily available, as are youtube videos for a lot of the songs. Even if you're not good enough to play in the worship band, the leader will often be willing to share charts, recordings, etc.

In general, I'd say that piano is going to be more of a "play from notation" instrument and guitar is going to be an instrument where "playing by ear" is a popular approach. If your [i]guitar[/i] teacher is pushing you to read notated music, you may be going to the wrong music teacher, for you, anyway. Check the bulletin boards at the local music stores, make a few calls and say, "I want to learn to play by ear, I don't want to have to learn how to read music," and you WILL find teachers out there who understand that and probably learned that way themselves.



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24 May 2012, 2:59 pm

SanityTheorist wrote:
Music theory is extremely frustrating and is for those that don't know how to emote with their instrument


I have to agree. Reading can be useful to some, but it is by no means necessary. You don't need a script to speak .

I found practicing scales very helpful, as alot of music is based off of those patterns. ( + I just enjoy practicing scales).

If you get into music from other cultures you soon relize that the "rules" of western music don't apply.

In Junior High School I took a guitar class and the teacher (who was a horrible guitar player) gave me a D because I was such a poor reader. My dad had a good laugh about it when I sat in with his band later that week :lol:



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24 May 2012, 3:14 pm

charles52 wrote:
For learning to play by ear, I think that even tab is more trouble than it's worth. Learn the chords, find chord charts for some songs you know, and start playing along.

For what it's worth, "music theory" is actually going to do more for you playing by ear than it is if you're playing from notation. Playing by ear (from chord charts), when you see that you're supposed to play a Gmin9 chord at some point in the song, with a little music theory, you can figure out what that is and how to make that chord. Playing from notation (on piano, anyway), it will tell you what the notes are, it may not even include the chord name.

I don't know if you're involved in a church at all, but there's a whole "contemporary worship" thing going on these days; the songs tend to be fairly simple, chord charts are pretty easily available, as are youtube videos for a lot of the songs. Even if you're not good enough to play in the worship band, the leader will often be willing to share charts, recordings, etc.

In general, I'd say that piano is going to be more of a "play from notation" instrument and guitar is going to be an instrument where "playing by ear" is a popular approach. If your guitar teacher is pushing you to read notated music, you may be going to the wrong music teacher, for you, anyway. Check the bulletin boards at the local music stores, make a few calls and say, "I want to learn to play by ear, I don't want to have to learn how to read music," and you WILL find teachers out there who understand that and probably learned that way themselves.


CCM/blended-worship-style keyboardist here. ;) I never have a problem just giving away charts I've used before to my piano students.

The way I've learned to see standard notation is, just like when you learn as a guitar player to follow fret diagrams, all the chords have a recognizable, visual "shape." If you know what a Gm9 "looks" like in notation, all you have to do is just make the shape with your hands just like a guitarist would. If I HAVE to read music, it just becomes a matter of how skilled I am at the moment to execute that particular shape as-written. Some figures take practice, others I've done a million times, so what's a million more?

What I found was that as I got away from the notation and ONLY played by ear for a while, I'd "accidentally" improved my overall playing ability and was blown away that I was sight-reading Mozart sonatas. A well-rounded approach to learning that exercises the ears as much as the brain and the fingers (and eyes) will do you a lot better than sticking exclusively with only one way of learning, and they'll all tend to reinforce each other.



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06 Jun 2012, 3:39 pm

The way I learned to play songs on the guitar by ear was by learning all the main chords and then playing along with songs on itunes.