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10 Mar 2013, 12:09 am

The Women of the Wood is a serial I am contemplating. I have done two pieces thus far, not sure if it will extend but I hope it will.

The Mother of the Wood
The first of the Women of the Wood serial I am working on. This is supposed to be a mature, yet young female surrounded by foliage and leaves. Graphite, chalk and charcoal piece.
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The Daughter of the Wood
Second image of the Women of the Woods serial. This one has a leaner face to look younger the flowers are supposed to represent spring, another youthful reference and the thorns are supposed to represent the ideal of protecting the youth. Graphite, chalk and black ink. I chose to darken this image with a different technique than the first, The Mother of the Wood, and I think it turned out rather well, Although I am not sure about repeating the method with the next, if I am able to draw what I visualized.
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10 Mar 2013, 3:15 am

I never want to do anything like this again. It's likely I will do it again anyway. I think I have a lot to improve on, but I guess it's okay for a first time.

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10 Mar 2013, 3:53 am

^Cool, drawing, Makayla! I hope you enjoy working on those projects I sometimes give you and have fun.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFi2ab8ud-4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRCPSVEqGus&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Here's my two newest youtube videos. They show my face, so I hope you find that acceptable. Also, can someone draw the monster I described in the second video? I think that would look both cool and creepy.


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10 Mar 2013, 8:00 am

BlackSabre7 wrote:
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[img][800:615]http://imageshack.us/a/img593/7242/fa3compforwp.jpg[/img]


This is my favourite image on this thread so far. But I only looked at maybe 20 pages so far.

Are they magic eye things?

no. they are just patterns.

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How do you do it?


it is impossible to describe how i think of the patterns. i do not see the patterns visually, but i see them in a mathematical way. when i was young, i developed a branch of personal mathematical consideration that i have never been able to describe to anyone, but when i muse in this way of thinking, i can kind of cause multiple (what i call) "ripulets" of influence through a mathematical feedback sequence that prevents it from becoming a homogenous "numeric overflow". a sequence that would rapidly become an impossible symmetrical infinity is diverted into a manifestation due to cascading damping factors (that also interfere with each other) that produce visual patterns when plotted visually. i have never been able to explain it really.

as for the way i produce the pictures in a practical sense, i wrote a program into which i feed an iterative script that dictates a sequence of modifiers with every loop, and the parent program then "psets" (point sets) the plot points in ever increasing x and y axial values. the parent program is constant, but the scripts i write for it to execute are different for every "pattern" i think of.

the parent program psets in black and white and shades of grey the design of the picture, and then i have another program which colorizes the pattern using boolean combinations of the various overlays that are produced by modifications of the modifiers (that themselves follow a sequence that is resultant from the previous iterative influence) in the successive master loops of the parent program that are trapezoidaly (coinage) amalgamated. the colorization sequence is equally hard to describe.
i may use orbital trap scripts or binary decomposition or triangular inequalities or a combination to prepare the multilayered picture for colorization.
then there is the transfer functions which join the outside colorization with the inside colorization and they can be exponential or sine or square root or logarithmic etc..etc...

actually it will take for ever to explain. the process of how i produce the pictures is conventional, but the process of how i think them up is peculiar.

finally, there is a z axial aspect to the pictures which is a by product of the pictures themselves.
i calculate the pset areas of my pictures to a resolution of about 1,600,000 bytes by 9,000,000

a monitor has a resolution of about 1600 x 900 pixels, so i can zoom in (in an animated drill in) to 1000x before the picture loses it's sharpness. likewise i can start at 1000x and zoom out to 1x for an animation before i return to the start point.

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the idea that inspired the picture you are talking about was an idea i had when i saw an elaborate silken tablecloth, and later i saw an elaborate coat of arms, and the 2 ideas blended in my head, and the picture was my idea of the tablecloth for the richest person on earth (sans symbology).



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10 Mar 2013, 8:05 am

here is another idea along the same lines i had for exquisitely designed tablecloths.

[img][800:615]http://imageshack.us/a/img851/264/fa2b.jpg[/img]

this picture was considered by a few girls to be equal to my cluelessness as to the female sexuality even though i did not plan it that way.
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10 Mar 2013, 8:16 am

although there is fractal influence, this is the most complicated animated design i ever did, although the music to it was deleted by youtube because it was a violation of a copyright.
i have posted this before but i will never produce better than this.

my computer that i had my programs on died last year and so did my programs, and i am not as interested any more to produce these designs. i can not be bothered to spend months on reprogramming all the tools i used, so there will be nothing new from me in the short term (but i did reprogram the parent program a few weeks ago because i do want to see more of my ideas in a visual way). you have to look at in in hi res or it is not worth viewing.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oudCzcOQbw8&list=UUpB1H594Ek2H_hWBxJ7ja7g&index=5[/youtube]



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10 Mar 2013, 2:55 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhfEBZpQVAY[/youtube]



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10 Mar 2013, 9:53 pm

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11 Mar 2013, 6:58 am

OK, b9, so my maths is enough to get a feel for what you did, but not enough to understand everything you said. I will stick to my paint brushes and to admiring your work. I love the intricacy of the patterns. I have seen computer generated fractals before. Are they done similarly?
Pity about your computer.
I should get a poster or something printed from a couple of them to stick on my wall. Them when my husband gives me a meltdown, I can go and stare at one of them. 8O



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11 Mar 2013, 8:00 am

BlackSabre7 wrote:
b9 wrote:


This is my favourite image on this thread so far. But I only looked at maybe 20 pages so far.

Are they magic eye things? I twisted my eyeballs into a knot trying to see the blue one, and it sort of looks like a bull, but I don't seem to be as good at is as I used to be. Haven't done it for a while.

How do you do it?

MUST post something of mine soon. I am more traditional.


This particular picture is rather...suggestive.

Isnt it?

Kinda the opposite of a 'phallic symbol', shall we say?


But thats amazing that he invented this technique.



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11 Mar 2013, 8:21 am

BlackSabre7 wrote:
OK, b9, so my maths is enough to get a feel for what you did, but not enough to understand everything you said. I will stick to my paint brushes and to admiring your work.

i am admiring of people who can produce real art with their hands. i can not even draw let alone paint acceptable pictures.
mikayla's art for example is far beyond my ability. i can draw daffy duck, but that is about it.


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I have seen computer generated fractals before. Are they done similarly?

i am not sure. i know there are fractal generators (bought programs) that produce patterns from preset menu choices of various seed numbers and they can produce very nice patterns. i am sure that you know that a fractal is a pattern that no matter how magnified, always reveals the same pattern over and over again because it's subsets are identical to it's super sets (like a feather or the veins in a leaf), but eventually in the physical world, the subsets dissolve (like an electron microscope's image of a feather surpasses the end point of the possible subsets), but in the theoretical world, the subsets can be infinite.
i modify the otherwise identical subsets of the super set, so that each subset is minutely different from it's super set, and it also becomes the super set of it's child subset that, in itself is slightly modified from it's parent set etc ad infinitum.

mandelbrot and julia sets are the most common ones, and i sometimes use them but i set the modifiers so that within a only few iterations, they become invisible as the foundation of the pattern.

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Pity about your computer.


it is also a pity i never backed up my hard drive. i was intensely interested in producing patterns, and i made many hundred of them (and made drill in animations as well), but after about 3 years, i felt that my patterns were starting to look similar (in essence), so the intensity of my interest waned. most people (NT (for want of a better word)) lost interest in my patterns after they had seen only 2 or 3, and one person said "if you've seen one, you've seen them all", and that disillusioned me because i realized they were probably correct.


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I should get a poster or something printed from a couple of them to stick on my wall.


the problem with that idea is that the pictures i posted here are only 800x600 pixels, and if you made a large poster of any of these pictures, they would be very ill resolved. i made a mistake in my previous post where i said the originals were 1,600,000 bytes by 9,000,000 . i meant 1,600,000 by 9,000,000 bits (pixels) (they had to be that large to be able to drill to 1000x), but the original file would create a crystal sharp picture that could cover a whole wall easily.

an idea that me and tammy had was to create a transparency (like a slide) that could be placed over a backlit surface (similar to how doctors display x-ray pictures) that could be viewed with the lights off.

here is an earlier picture i created which i titled "my world", and while it is not quickly masking of it's julian origin, it does show an icy world where the light of the universe only penetrates through patterned crevices in my sky and with only a few lakes of understanding that were not frozen solid.

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11 Mar 2013, 8:26 am

naturalplastic wrote:
BlackSabre7 wrote:
b9 wrote:


This is my favourite image on this thread so far. But I only looked at maybe 20 pages so far.

Are they magic eye things? I twisted my eyeballs into a knot trying to see the blue one, and it sort of looks like a bull, but I don't seem to be as good at is as I used to be. Haven't done it for a while.

How do you do it?

MUST post something of mine soon. I am more traditional.


This particular picture is rather...suggestive.

Isnt it?

Kinda the opposite of a 'phallic symbol', shall we say?


But thats amazing that he invented this technique.


Yes, I did see that. I don't mind that, I find it fascinating. I am pretty open-minded when it comes to art. The very first lesson at Uni when I did my (never quite finished) art degree, a model stood in the middle of the room and without warning dropped her robe, and posed, and we were all supposed to draw her. I am pretty sure every single student spent the first fifteen minutes concentrating on looking like it was no big deal, more than doing the actual drawings. :lol:

They showed us a lot of stuff over the courses designed to challenge our perceptions of what art was all about. Some of it was pretty weird.... um, er I mean 'inspirational'. (weird) :wink:



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11 Mar 2013, 8:31 am

naturalplastic wrote:
BlackSabre7 wrote:
b9 wrote:


This is my favourite image on this thread so far. But I only looked at maybe 20 pages so far.

Are they magic eye things? I twisted my eyeballs into a knot trying to see the blue one, and it sort of looks like a bull, but I don't seem to be as good at is as I used to be. Haven't done it for a while.

How do you do it?

MUST post something of mine soon. I am more traditional.


This particular picture is rather...suggestive.

Isnt it?

Kinda the opposite of a 'phallic symbol', shall we say?


But thats amazing that he invented this technique.


although you have posted to a post with a broken link to the silk tablecloth picture, i think you are referring to the picture that looks like a girl in a miniskirt with a haze of unrelated patterns occluding her private parts.

it is not a technique. it just happened that way and i do not really know how. i was thinking in that manner and somehow the pattern emerged.



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11 Mar 2013, 8:33 am

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
I never want to do anything like this again. It's likely I will do it again anyway. I think I have a lot to improve on, but I guess it's okay for a first time.

(picture edited out for space reasons by Mirror21)


Why don't you want to do that again? Was the coloring process too tasking? It looks gorgeous though.



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11 Mar 2013, 9:10 am

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i can draw daffy duck, but that is about it.


What's wrong with Daffy Duck?!? He's my favourite little black duck! :lol:

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it is also a pity i never backed up my hard drive. i was intensely interested in producing patterns, and i made many hundred of them (and made drill in animations as well), but after about 3 years, i felt that my patterns were starting to look similar (in essence), so the intensity of my interest waned. most people (NT (for want of a better word)) lost interest in my patterns after they had seen only 2 or 3, and one person said "if you've seen one, you've seen them all", and that disillusioned me because i realized they were probably correct.



Well, that happens to many musical as well as visual artists. The challenge then becomes to find a way to evolve your art to the next level.

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an idea that me and tammy had was to create a transparency (like a slide) that could be placed over a backlit surface (similar to how doctors display x-ray pictures) that could be viewed with the lights off.


That would certainly be more effective than any print. I can see them being used in professional settings to attract customers. Or one of your videos used for dental patients to watch. This sort of thing can make money in commercial applications. But for some people, like me for one, the hard part is taking the idea an turning it into a viable business. And then China steals it and mass produces it. Depressing.

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here is an earlier picture i created which i titled "my world", and while it is not quickly masking of it's julian origin, it does show an icy world where the light of the universe only penetrates through patterned crevices in my sky and with only a few lakes of understanding that were not frozen solid.

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This is my new favourite. I am probably biased by my favourite obsession - astrophysics/space. I love how the lakes seem to have the kinds of patterns that ice forms in real life.
Just awesome.



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11 Mar 2013, 9:22 am

Mirror21 wrote:
MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
I never want to do anything like this again. It's likely I will do it again anyway. I think I have a lot to improve on, but I guess it's okay for a first time.

(picture edited out for space reasons by Mirror21)


Why don't you want to do that again? Was the coloring process too tasking? It looks gorgeous though.


It's more time consuming than anything else. I don't have a d pad or a stylus I can use with my tablet, so I did it all with a mouse. :lol:


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