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22 Apr 2016, 10:18 pm

For me Prince isn't my icon even though his music is great. My single artist icon is Austin Lunn better known as Panopticon.


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25 Apr 2016, 7:59 am

I don't like Death Grips, and I find them to be hard to listen to. I'm no stranger to intense music either, because I'll happily listen to industrial music, cybergrind, death metal, grindcore, and occasionally even black metal and harsh noise... but somehow Death Grips is too intense for me. Then again, hip hop is one of my absolute least favorite genres.

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For me Prince isn't my icon even though his music is great. My single artist icon is Austin Lunn better known as Panopticon.

What's happening with Prince right now is VERY similar to what happened with Micheal Jackson when he died. People who haven't said anything about him in a long time are coming out of the woodwork and gushing over him... because he's dead. I know this is really callous to say, and some rabid fan somewhere is likely going to crucify me for saying it, but this is just how it is. For the record, I've never really been a fan of him or his music, probably because I was born in the wrong time and place to really get the hype.


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25 Apr 2016, 3:43 pm

his music wasn't my cup of tea but I recognize his abundant talents.



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26 Apr 2016, 12:25 am

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his music wasn't my cup of tea but I recognize his abundant talents.

I have no doubt Prince was a talented performer, I'm just not really into him.


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26 Apr 2016, 12:26 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
his music wasn't my cup of tea but I recognize his abundant talents.

I have no doubt Prince was a talented performer, I'm just not really into him.

by and large, I only like music that came before him.



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26 Apr 2016, 5:51 am

Michael Jackson came first...he was in the Jackson 5, and even then Jackson started his solo career before Prince.

Prince certainly has his own individual sound, far more smoother than MJ.

MJ was upbeat dance-pop, Prince was more smooth jazz/adult contemporary.

Still, Prince just feels like something of a poor-mans MJ to me.

I too can't find myself to like his sound. It's just not to my taste.

Talented, of course, but more difficult to really get into than MJ.

Then again, my dad's been listening to MJ since I was a kid.

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- Pop Rock is amazing, and I hope it makes a comeback sometime soon.

It definitely died around early 2000's.

By Pop Rock I mean Blink-182, Simple Plan, Sum-41, Good Charlotte, Paramore, etc.

I don't consider silly boy bands such as 5 seconds of summer to be 'pop rock' - they're just pop.

My definition is pop rock is, hard to understand, but pop rock to me is rock with a pop structure and clean production.

Pop music with rock influences, is just pop with rock influences.

Two different things.

I'm not talking about so called 'Indie Rock' rubbish either. I can't stand Coldplay, Artic Monkeys, Imagine Dragons, etc.

'Emo' rock such as Green Day, Radiohead, My Chemical Romance, and such, are meh.

- Any genre that becomes popular, unfortunately, is drastically altered to become more commercialized and easier to reach a wider audience.

The controversial electronic genre known as Dubstep, is a very big victim of this.

The dubstep that become popular, is a style known as 'Brostep', named so because it's what dubstep sounds like when American frat bros get their hands on it.

Brostep sounds extremely aggressive, fast, upbeat and abrasive, a la the likes of Skrillex and what-not.

Classic dubstep, however, from the late '90s/early 2000's, sounds far more pleasant to the ears and is actually produced quite well. It is far more experimental in its structure, and was inspired by reggae and dub.

I think this kind of dubstep should have been popular, at least for a few years or so in the 2008-2012 timeline.

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- The '90s to early 2000's (1990-2006, roughly) put out the best music. It was when my favorite genre/s were at its peak regarding musical quality and creativity, there was a lot of musical change and evolution, etc.

Even if you hate modern music, does anyone else at least agree it was all downhill for basically every genre from 2005 onwards?

- Favorite to least favorite genre ranking: 1. Electronic 2. Rock, Pop/Rock, Metal 3. R&B, Rap, 4. Classical, chamber music, 5. Country 6. Opera 7. Reggae, dancehall 8. Everything else 9. Pop music. :lol:



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26 Apr 2016, 5:54 am

auntblabby wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
his music wasn't my cup of tea but I recognize his abundant talents.

I have no doubt Prince was a talented performer, I'm just not really into him.

by and large, I only like music that came before him.

The 1980s were a weird decade for music. A lot of great stuff, but a lot of utter crap too. Everyone remembers the 80s for sappy pop ballads and cheesy hair metal bands, but it was also a good decade for more underground genres like thrash metal, post-punk/new wave, gothic rock, hardcore punk, black metal, and industrial music. It also saw the birth of grunge and techno, two genres that would become massively popular in the 90s.


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26 Apr 2016, 7:19 am

I find a lot of new genres were introduced in the '80s, with the evolution of music technology and the commercialization of synthesizer and such.

Most genres created in the '90s were in their very prototype stages before they became commercialized.

With electronic music, the reality is it's existed far earlier than that, what with Brian Eno, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk and other experimental composers.

Here's some early electronic from 1978:



Anyway, yeah Techno and House began in the '70s or '80s, early hip-hop, early industrial, early pop-rock (e.g. the Ramones), early contemporary R&B, early pop music.

And I think '90s was when most of it all took off, and then post-2005 the golden age of all of these genres had passed.

Rock and metal are amazing, but I think their golden age was '70s to the early '90s.

Electronic music is apparently in its 'golden age', if you can even call it that. I'd rather say it's a year or two from 'dying'.

I only say that as it's at its most popular it's ever been, but otherwise most modern electronic music is nothing more than trendy, short shelf-lifed, short-lived, regurgitated cråp.

Golden age for electronic was truly '80s to 2005 - electronic produced Ambient music is still enjoyed, Trance music is almost timeless, as is a lot of classic house and techno of that time. Even early dubstep/grime is still reining strong in the underground UK scene.

Otherwise to people who don't like electronic, most of the stuff you may hear on the radio today I can't stand either.



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26 Apr 2016, 9:00 am

If you want to get technical, it can be argued that electronic music has existed in some form since the late 19th century, with the telharmonium.;)


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26 Apr 2016, 2:27 pm

I was appalled when garth brooks came out wearing that high-tech headset, and calling himself a purveyor of "country" music.



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26 Apr 2016, 7:25 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
If you want to get technical, it can be argued that electronic music has existed in some form since the late 19th century, with the telharmonium.;)


Of course, it's over 100 years old, what with the Theramin and such.

And then in the 1920s and 30s and such, experimental French and other European composers would experiment with circuit wiring and overlaying tapes and such.

Late 1960s to mid-1970s, Ambient was being made by pioneers such as Brian Eno, Tangerine Dream, and Jean Michael Jarre.

Then, late 70s, Kraftwerk helped jumpstart techno, while in the U.S., disco was dying but by the early '80s evolved into early house.

House and Techno saw golden age '80s-'90s, and as the technology improved, we saw new genres; Trance and such.

It's a very interesting history that so many fans don't seem to know about.

Skrillex wasn't even a 'pioneer' of his own genre, that can be attributed to Skream. Deadmau5's sound isn't revolutionary, either - he's a talented producer, but nothing new in musicality or structure. Tech-House like his has been around since the '80s.



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26 Apr 2016, 7:41 pm

The Ramones were definitely not a "pop" group. They were more like a punk group with pop pretentions.



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26 Apr 2016, 7:44 pm

Randy Travis long reminded me of Bing Crosby trying to do country.



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06 May 2016, 5:27 pm

99% of hip hop sucks to me. I've tried listening to it, but I just can't get into it. No offense to anyone that's a fan, it's just not my thing.


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06 May 2016, 5:28 pm

i just can't get into urban contemporary music.



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06 May 2016, 5:30 pm

I still enjoy listening to Pantera even though Phil Anselmo may or may not be a racist.


I don't listen to Burzum or anything that I know Varg Vikernes has touched though, because I don't want to support an outright fascist.


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