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09 Mar 2010, 5:27 am

Friskeygirl wrote:
Dark Side of the Moon sync to The Wizard of Oz, I haven't been able to find unedited version on you tube in
awhile but I am sure there's a few copies floating around on the torrent sites, its one of the coolest things I
have seen
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkEDpOhEHQ[/youtube]


Yep, totally amazing! My favourite section is The Great Gig in the Sky:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2CYjcQSUXg&feature=related[/youtube]



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14 Mar 2010, 4:42 pm

Would ya believe that while searching for something totally different, I came across a website that lets you do this? Check it out: I actually made that Ace of Spades/Hammerhead mix I told you about. Here it is:
http://www.jamglue.com/mixes/15594823-Ace-of-Spades-Hammerhead


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14 Mar 2010, 5:23 pm

Are we actually going to make some youtube mixing/blending suggestions?

I've done this one before, has quite a nice effect.

Take Roni Size - Trust Me, let the beat play out, and play the atmospheric pad from The Angels Fell over it at various points, really lush sound:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxeStgwA6gk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el1y1Ik9y1I&feature=related[/youtube]

I might actually have to take a look around and see if I can come up with more of these, pretty much something with a good intro or breakdown that can be folded into something, even though I don't have turntables I still think this is great conceptual practice - ie. knowing how to pick your records.


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15 Mar 2010, 3:13 am

I've had just a couple of mash-up ideas but I'll be damned if I can remember them. I'd try some but lack the technology. On general principles, I'd say besides beat matching and key matching choose songs that are sparse and can fill each others' holes. I would think the Police would be a fruitful first half of many good mashups - they have plenty of minimalist, quiet/atmospheric songs that something more attention-grabbing could sit on top of.



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20 Mar 2010, 9:11 pm

Many, many moons ago a friend and I used to play 'Time Has Come Today' by the Chambers Brothers with 'Free Form Guitar' by Chicago Transit Authority



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21 Mar 2010, 12:33 am

This guy Girl Talk does great mashups, he has a couple of albums with pretty great tracks, you can download it for free here

Now to the songs, I really like this one:



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR-pjMyXMbs[/youtube]



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26 Mar 2010, 11:09 pm

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I'm a DJ so I know all about this crap. It's about matching up the beats and making sure that the tempos work together. Nothing sounds worse than a slightly off beat count because as the tracks that your mixing together continue to play, the beats start sounding more and more off and it's too late to fix them.

Not quite....

Besides getting beatmatched as a given, the largest part of what would allow Song-1 to sound good laid over the top of Song-2 is by matching the musical key in which the songs are written in. Sure, you can take any two songs with similar BPM's and match their ends together. That's easy. But I'm guessing the OP is talking about making a proper mash-up.

Although you don't quite need to know music theory to do it, as you can do it by ear, it helps to know the basics. And if you do know some theory - enough to determine a song's key - then you can know whether or not two will go together without even trying it out or hearing them.

Here's one rough way of determining whether Song-1 will be able to go together with Song-2. It's not 100%, but it's a pretty reliable 'quick & dirty' way of doing it....

Listen first and foremost to what notes the bassline is playing. If Song-1 keeps on coming back to(for example) the C for it's bassline, if it keeps 'resolving' on C, then that's probably the key the song is written in. If Song-B also keeps on wanting to 'resolve' to C, then you're almost there... Next the question is whether or not Song A and B are in C Major or C Minor. That's a bit tougher to figure out without theory. But, fortunately, Minor keys usually more common in pop music, so it's worth trying it out at that point.

In other words, if the basslines of both songs keep playing the same note, they theres a very good chance they're in the same key, and won't clash if you played them at the same time.

There's a little bit of wiggle room though, if you use a little bit more music theory:
Song-2 can still sound basically good with Song-1 if they're different by precisely a 5th interval. For example, if Song-1 is playing in the key of C, it would still sound good if song-2 were playing in the key of G or F, because G is a fifth UP from C, and F is a 5th DOWN from C.
As an identical example, if Song-1 were in the key of A, then it would sound good if Song-2 were in they key of either E(5 up from A), or D(5 down from A).

When you're dealing with hip hop vocals, things get a lot easier. Often times, hip hop vocals aren't tonal at all! They aren't 'sung' in any key, it's just random or chromatic. So it doesn't matter what music you put the vocal with! However, if there's music behind it, you'll have to listen to it's bassline like anything else. On the other hand, more club oriented hip hop vocals lately have been doing a lot of mono-tone vocals. Usually those vocals resolves on the same note over and over... just like a bassline. Thus they indicate what key they're in.

This is how mash-up artists like Girl Talk and Z-Trip do their thing. It's how I tend to mix my progressive house sets, if I've got enough songs in enough keys to support key-mixing.

If incorporate a little bit of basic music theory into the process, you don't have to do all the trial-and-error guesswork... You KNOW which ones' are going to be compatible in advance, and which ones will sound dissonant and awful.



If you wanted to record/lay down the tracks yourself, you could transpose from one song's key into the same key as the other or vice a versa or into a different key of choice. This would be so cool to do if I had all the right stuff to do it with. That's one of my priorities, to get all the stuff to play around with and compose.



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26 Mar 2010, 11:16 pm

pakled wrote:
I do this all the time, especially when I don't know the words. I once put 'Pretty fly for a white guy' lyrics onto Rancids ' Black coat, white shoes red hair, Cadillac'...or whatever it's called.


That's so cool! :colors: