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03 Oct 2010, 4:14 pm

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Well, that's your load of mallarky and you're sticking to it, I'm sure. You have just made criticisms of me, nothing more. You have never been in any way helpful. You have your own agenda. Nothing whatsoever to do with me. You are using me as a sounding board for a lot of your nonsense, put downs, and labels, whatever best suits YOU. You have an excuse for that, too. I don't have any of the kind. I'm struggling with my own life being autistic on top of that, and you're a major ass-hole, to put it bluntly. That's the difference between you and me. I'm honest and direct and you are cunning and manipulative.

If you want to see it as malarkey, I can't control and change that, and I am sorry to have bothered you with the effort. I do not feel you see the intentions of others accurately, and also feel you would benefit if you could accept that reality. However, you have made it clear that you do not wish to, and I will respect your choice.

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03 Oct 2010, 4:17 pm

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I have known more than one person who ties up all their bull-sh** in pretty wrapping.
When you open the pretty wrapping, it still smells like bull-sh**.

Yes, well, I have noticed the irony of having this conversation in a thread that makes note of Dolores Umbridge.

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03 Oct 2010, 4:17 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

Meadow wrote:

You're full of s**t, like I said. I take complete responsibility for myself. If you can't see that, it's your problem not mine.

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03 Oct 2010, 4:18 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

Meadow wrote:

I have known more than one person who ties up all their bull-sh** in pretty wrapping.
When you open the pretty wrapping, it still smells like bull-sh**.

Yes, well, I have noticed the irony of having this conversation in a thread that makes note of Dolores Umbridge.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

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04 Oct 2010, 3:21 am

Hmm, lemme see;

Glaurung. Always liked Glaurung.

Wayland Smith. Mainly because of The Winter of the World and for remembering standing outside his Smithy.

Tam Lin (in all manner of incarnations).

And yeah, I realise there's common threads, there.

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04 Oct 2010, 6:22 am

Aunt Izzie, from: What Katy did. She hits the kids for no real reason apparently, although she does get "nicer" after the protagonist falls off a swing in which she shouldn't have been on in the first damn place.

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05 Oct 2010, 6:31 am

I meant to say Sunday, as well, from The Man Who Was Thursday. Or possibly Thursday. You'd have to read it. Very good book. :wink:

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05 Oct 2010, 6:51 am

Ha, great choice, although I can't see Sunday as a villain - he was just too... playful

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05 Oct 2010, 7:57 am

Satan.

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05 Oct 2010, 1:00 pm

this thread scares me.

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06 Oct 2010, 2:36 am

Dudley Smith, the corrupt police captain and retired OSS agent, who is trying to gain control over L.A.'s organized crime, in James Elroy's novels, The Big Nowhere, L.A. Confidential, and White Jazz. He was played by actor James Cromwell in the movie adaption of L.A. Confidential, in which he gets his comeuppance by getting shot by detective Exley (never happened in the book).

Also, from another James Elroy novel, American Tabloid, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, who is portrayed as the plotting, treacherous (closet homosexual) spider in the middle of his web of intrigue. He manipulates the many characters (some of whom allow themselves to be manipulated) in order to bring himself more personal power, and to destroy his many enemies, including JFK.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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06 Oct 2010, 7:21 pm

I both love and hate Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights (I think that's the whole point). He's one of those villains who wasn't born evil. He was made that way by whatever happened to him to leave him wandering the streets as a little boy all alone. Then the prejudice of English society (including his much-older brother by adoption) made him worse. With all his intelligence, he seems to have had so much potential.

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06 Oct 2010, 10:46 pm

I'm rather fond of God out of that impressive fictional work The Bible. He works up the most extraordinary messes and then sits back and blames His victims. Rather amusing in a nasty way.

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09 Oct 2010, 1:17 am

Iago from Othello...case closed

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09 Oct 2010, 1:27 am

Sand wrote:

I'm rather fond of God out of that impressive fictional work The Bible. He works up the most extraordinary messes and then sits back and blames His victims. Rather amusing in a nasty way.

Sounds like you share Dawkins' opinion on God. Not that there's anything wrong with that, so do I.

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09 Oct 2010, 5:33 am

Quatermass wrote:

Sand wrote:

I'm rather fond of God out of that impressive fictional work The Bible. He works up the most extraordinary messes and then sits back and blames His victims. Rather amusing in a nasty way.

Sounds like you share Dawkins' opinion on God. Not that there's anything wrong with that, so do I.

I've read Dawkins and am happy he agrees with me. I have thought this way since 1930 when I was 4 years old. But of course, he has said other most interesting things.

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