Is today's music horrible and if so why?
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So many unheard of bands past the 2000
Pelican, my favorite band is one of them.
Good modern albums worth a listen:
Agalloch : The Mantle / atmospheric folk metal with post rock and black metal influence
God is an astronaut: all is violent, All i bright - non traditional post rock with heavy emphasis on keyboard with subtle electronic influence
Pelican: the fire in our throats will beckon the thaw: sheer beautiful and strangely optimistic, instrumental stoner rock with post rock influences.
Animals as leaders : weightless jazz/ prog metal fusion also instrumental
Porcupine tree : in absentia / the must have prog album of the decade
Biosphere : substrata : personally my favorite a,bient album for its tundra atmosphere.
Opeth : watershed. / words do no justice for this stereotype-shattering masterpiece
Aphex twin : selected ambient works 85-92
MUST HAVE if you dont have this record you're missing out
God i could go on.
So i will
Souvenirs young american - the name of the snake / amazing post rock/ space metal with.... Harmonica?
Tortoise: tnt / sorta earlier post rock but is absolutely beautiful and stunning all e same
Sleepmakeswaves: in today already walks tomorrow / beautiful inspiring post rock with metal influence
Godspeed you! Black Emperor: f# a# infinity / another earlier post rock release but i love it so much.
Tool - lateralus / released around 2000 and is a must have for whatever genre you consider them to be
King crimson - thrak / i love this album, although most ppl dont but hey
Wolfsheim - sparrows and the nightingales / nice future pop
Thats ll for now. Theres even really good famous ones like dmb coldplay, and the killers!
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The 00's Is my favorite decade at the moment.
The people that bash it usually base their opinion off of mainstream bands(Which make up less than 1% of it as a whole.); a very weak argument.
"The Sham Mirrors" is probably my favorite album of all time, I don't believe anything I have heard from the 90's, 80's, 70's or 60's has impressed me as much as this album.
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I think when people say there's no good music anymore they are talking about top 40 music. They remember songs on the radio that correlated with a certain time in their life. I mean, in the 60s popular bands like the Beatles or the Beach Boys were actually fresh and pioneering. Same goes for hard rock bands and disco in the 70s. 80s top 40 also had it's own unique sound. Basically every decade from the 20s through the 90s had some kind of defining pop sound. The 90s had grunge which lost some pop appeal because it was too edgy and dissonant for a lot of people. That schism/trend probably started in the 80s actually where innovative music stopped being universally popular. The "shoegaze" sound was briefly popular in the UK but it never really transferred to the US except for some alternative bands like Smashing Pumpkins who imitated it. Anyways, my point is that novel iconic pop music is pretty much dead. Everything post-grunge in the mainstream is pretty damn derivative of older styles. I still think the 00s had great music, it's just that most of it isn't music with universal appeal. I happen to like modern music, but there's no way to get most people into it. The mainstream is mostly gimmicky trash or completely unoriginal and boring.
Pelican, my favorite band is one of them.
Good modern albums worth a listen:
Agalloch : The Mantle / atmospheric folk metal with post rock and black metal influence
God is an astronaut: all is violent, All i bright - non traditional post rock with heavy emphasis on keyboard with subtle electronic influence
Pelican: the fire in our throats will beckon the thaw: sheer beautiful and strangely optimistic, instrumental stoner rock with post rock influences.
Animals as leaders : weightless jazz/ prog metal fusion also instrumental
Porcupine tree : in absentia / the must have prog album of the decade
Biosphere : substrata : personally my favorite a,bient album for its tundra atmosphere.
Opeth : watershed. / words do no justice for this stereotype-shattering masterpiece
Aphex twin : selected ambient works 85-92
MUST HAVE if you dont have this record you're missing out
God i could go on.
So i will
Souvenirs young american - the name of the snake / amazing post rock/ space metal with.... Harmonica?
Tortoise: tnt / sorta earlier post rock but is absolutely beautiful and stunning all e same
Sleepmakeswaves: in today already walks tomorrow / beautiful inspiring post rock with metal influence
Godspeed you! Black Emperor: f# a# infinity / another earlier post rock release but i love it so much.
Tool - lateralus / released around 2000 and is a must have for whatever genre you consider them to be
King crimson - thrak / i love this album, although most ppl dont but hey
Wolfsheim - sparrows and the nightingales / nice future pop
Thats ll for now. Theres even really good famous ones like dmb coldplay, and the killers!
Watershed by Opeth is absolutely brilliant. As for the music of today, there are some underground gems hidden amongst the repetitive, predictable, mainstream crap like we have over here in the UK - which seems to be full of nonsensical, bland and banal rnb/dance fusion by "Insert artist name here." featuring "Random artist name here."
The 70's, 80's and 90's are vastly superior.
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Today's music definitely sucks, and I've been saying that since about 1995. The way I see it, music becomes more about making money, so corporations manufacture musical "artists" based on how good they look or how well they dance, rather than on their ability to actually sing or even play an instrument. As a result, we have people who aren't musicians writing and playing music to fit a certain image. Go look up Jim Croce. Take a look at him. He's one ugly mofo. But he's a good musician. Could he survive in today's music industry? Hell no, because he's ugly. Music today is mostly about appearance and nothing more. That's why we now have all that autotune BS. Because nobody can sing anymore. There's not much talent in music today. The songs are all about the same crap, they sound the same, they repeat the same things over and over again... There's no creativity, no emotion...
When I was growing up, I hated my parents' music, partially because it was old and what they listened to, so it wasn't "cool," but also partially because I heard it all the damn time whenever we went anywhere in the car. As I grew up and started hearing the crap that was being put out from like 1995 and on, I began to appreciate the music my parents listened to. There's more variation from one artist to another, more variation from one song to another by the same artist, more variation in the instruments used in the music, and more variation in musical style. Take a look at Billy Joel and Elton John. They are extremely talented musicians, singers, and song writers. They can make lots of different styles of music. Hell, most of Billy Joel's songs, I never even realized were by the same person until I found a greatest hits album of his that my mom had. You just don't find people like those two in the music industry anymore. EVERY damn song is guitar, drums, bass. Where's the piano? the trumpet? the violin? Where's the saxophone and the clarinet? Where's any instrument other than guitar, drums, and bass(Okay, and the occasional synthesizer)? Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against guitar, drums, and bass. I like plenty of music that has just those three instruments, but I appreciate some variety too. That's why I listen to quite a bit of foreign music. It's just more versatile. When I listen to modern american music, it seems to be just a bunch of people tooting their own horns, talking about how cool they are cuz they got money, drugs, hoes, and jewelry. Or it's some girl complaining about a bad relationship. Or it's a stupid slow sappy typical love song. Or it's some teenage-angst ridden piss and moan fest... It's almost all negativity.
Wanna hear a love song that isn't typical? Try Bonnie & Clyde by Die Toten Hosen.
Now don't get me wrong, I know that people a lot of times have that "the grass is greener" mentality, and I know people tend to romanticize the past. Maybe in reality there is the exact same ratio of good music to sh***y music as there always was, but nobody remembers the sh***y stuff from the 60s, so newer generations like mine don't ever get to hear it, and as a result, we romanticize the past and its music. I don't know... but honestly, I haven't heard any decent music come out since like 1995 or 2000. Everything I hear on the radio is absolute s**t, and they play the same songs over and over again so that if something ever was even decent in the first place, I'm sick of hearing it after a week(if I can even stand it that long). That is why I no longer listen to the radio.
When I was a kid, I used to love listening to the radio--I mean, it was GREAT. Then, well, things started to change. My favorite radio station changed to oldies format. Like, I went on vacation, came back, and the only station that played great music was GONE. Finito. I gave it a chance...got hooked on Beach Boys, the Turtles, Beatles, Stones, etc. And that was when I discovered you couldn't really find a station that played good rock music--it was all crap synth pop. I mean, if they'd just played Depeche Mode every now and again, but no. Within a year every rock/pop station was playing Nirvana and everyone I knew started wearing flannel. Um, I live in Mississippi, not Washington state--wtf??? What happened to all the cool LA bands?
You mean rock and pop music moved forward past the tired old rock 'n' roll band cliches? that was a good thing. Crap synth pop? as opposed to what? the same boring 'cool' rock music being played all the time? Any band labeled 'cool' most likely suck.
Creed, Linkin Park, and Nickelback? yeah that's so much better than Depeche Mode and Nirvana. If that is what cool is then I want no part of it. Give me pervasive cultural attitudes any day.
Nope sorry I'm not buying any of this, I think punk rock proved you don't need any of this expensive crap and a polished sound to make good music. The fact that you can do it by yourself in your bedroom is a good thing.
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I don't think it's the music. I think it's the listeners....
You can pinpoint the moment you become "old" by figuring out when you stopped relating to/keeping up with current music.
For me, it happened in the middle 90's... I don't get, or care to get, pop music today.
I'm sure there's good stuff to be heard but I DON'T CARE. I'M OLD.
The last 3 albums I've purchased that could be called new in any sense were:
Shonen Knife: Osaka Ramones
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vvmnoUD4aA&feature=related[/youtube]
She & Him: Volume Two
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAgLIaHj0M&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
The Black Keys: Brothers
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvFAYivuz8[/youtube]
...and they're all covers and retro.
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There has always been horrible music around in every decade aka...aerosmith. there is just more on the top of the charts now that is hard to listen to. There was a sum41? song I was listening to on the internet and let's just say it lacked medley, f-bombs and noise basically as much as I dislike some older records they never seemed to be at the low common denominator that a lot of rock and rap are currently mired in. never been much of a country fan so I don't have too strong of a opinion on that.
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It depends on what you listen to, I think there is a lot of good new music........most of it just tends not to be in the mainstream, this is not to say all mainstream artists are always crap but yeah I would say the majority of music now days that gets a lot of media coverage does tend to suck but there is also a lot of good music......I even know of newer bands that play psychedelic rock.
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