Does it make me autistic to enjoy Israeli rock?

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10 Mar 2018, 1:39 am

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How did you get into them? I got into Israeli rock because like I said before I got obsessed with Jewish stuff. So I wanted to listen to music in Hebrew. So I didn’t really find it organically. I’m thinking of learning some Hebrew, but I think I’d be better if I can get familiar with the language through music and movies. I did get into Nordic music more organically. Mainly because I noticed my favorite bands seemed to be Nordic. Eventually I learned some nordic languages. The isreali bands I’m into strangely remind me of my favorite Nordic bands. Maybe being into Israeli rock is for the best. I’m Hispanic and I feel weird liking Nordic music. If I like Nordic, Israeli and music from other cultures I feel less weird. I’ll look less like I want to be white and more like I explore other cultures.


how do you mean, when you say you found an artist "organically"?

i discovered inbal (and hebrew music in general, really), while listening to some icelandic music on youtube. i saw the unique, pixellated red and white thumbnail for her posthumous "haklatot aharonot" album and decided to take a listen. i was expecting something different than what i got, which was rather upbeat but some of the the other pieces on the album more suited my expectations. i guess i expected something more experimental or strange, considering the odd language and album cover (i had no familiarity with hebrew at this time).

múm, from iceland is what i was listening to, i guess that counts as a nordic band? their vocals and music are very soft though, they have an electronic "glitch" sound to them.

i'm hispanic too and have no qualms with these groups :D

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1. I just don’t appreciate my personality being labeled as autistic.


me neither....

What I mean by discovering music organically is that I wasn’t really specifically searching for it. Like on last.fm I just listened to music I was already into. They kept recommending Nordic bands and I enjoyed them. So I became a fan of Nordic music. Interesting that you found Hebrew music through Icelandic bands. I used to be heavily into Icelandic music as well. I sometimes still listen to my Icelandic favorites such as Ragnheiður Gröndal. I’m definitely familiar with the band múm. I even learnt a bit of Icelandic. Not enough resources and discipline for me to get super good, but I’m still able to read a lot of Scandinavian languages and sometimes Germanic type languages. When I listen to klezmer I can sometimes understand a bit of the Yiddish. I know it’s because of the Icelandic I studied. Maybe I’ll go back to studying it. Who knows? Did you ever study Icelandic? What Hispanic country is your family from?



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11 Mar 2018, 11:22 pm

I’m still wondering whether I just like listening to Hebrew like another poster said or if Hebrew goes well with rock. Some of these Israeli artists have really fun music.



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What I mean by discovering music organically is that I wasn’t really specifically searching for it. Like on last.fm I just listened to music I was already into. They kept recommending Nordic bands and I enjoyed them. So I became a fan of Nordic music. Interesting that you found Hebrew music through Icelandic bands. I used to be heavily into Icelandic music as well. I sometimes still listen to my Icelandic favorites such as Ragnheiður Gröndal. I’m definitely familiar with the band múm. I even learnt a bit of Icelandic. Not enough resources and discipline for me to get super good, but I’m still able to read a lot of Scandinavian languages and sometimes Germanic type languages. When I listen to klezmer I can sometimes understand a bit of the Yiddish. I know it’s because of the Icelandic I studied. Maybe I’ll go back to studying it. Who knows? Did you ever study Icelandic? What Hispanic country is your family from?


mexico, all of my aunts, uncles, grandparents were both there as well as some far removed cousins. now we're american.

i never studied icelandic....i imagine there wouldn't be as many resources for it as there are for hebrew but i may be mistaken of course. i think it's interesting how patronymics are still used there.

how much icelandic do you know?


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What I mean by discovering music organically is that I wasn’t really specifically searching for it. Like on last.fm I just listened to music I was already into. They kept recommending Nordic bands and I enjoyed them. So I became a fan of Nordic music. Interesting that you found Hebrew music through Icelandic bands. I used to be heavily into Icelandic music as well. I sometimes still listen to my Icelandic favorites such as Ragnheiður Gröndal. I’m definitely familiar with the band múm. I even learnt a bit of Icelandic. Not enough resources and discipline for me to get super good, but I’m still able to read a lot of Scandinavian languages and sometimes Germanic type languages. When I listen to klezmer I can sometimes understand a bit of the Yiddish. I know it’s because of the Icelandic I studied. Maybe I’ll go back to studying it. Who knows? Did you ever study Icelandic? What Hispanic country is your family from?


mexico, all of my aunts, uncles, grandparents were both there as well as some far removed cousins. now we're american.

i never studied icelandic....i imagine there wouldn't be as many resources for it as there are for hebrew but i may be mistaken of course. i think it's interesting how patronymics are still used there.

how much icelandic do you know?


There’s Icelandic online. I understood enough to kind of understand some songs and simple kid’s shows. How much Hebrew do you know? I pretty much only know the word shalom right now. Maybe I’ll try to study Hebrew again. Now that I’m more exposed to it I think it should be easier. I think that’s why I found Finnish words easier to remember. The good thing about Icelandic is that it’s related to English.



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13 Mar 2018, 3:23 pm

Would people assume I’m an Israel supporter/Zionist based on my music taste? I do have some affection for Israel, but I honestly don’t know enough about politics there.



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20 Mar 2018, 12:31 am

I just find it so weird that I didn’t care much for rock before, but I suddenly enjoy it when it’s in Hebrew. It also seems like my strong preference for female singers is gone for Israeli music. Now I seem to prefer male singers! WTF.



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20 Mar 2018, 6:06 am

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Would people assume I’m an Israel supporter/Zionist based on my music taste? I do have some affection for Israel, but I honestly don’t know enough about politics there.


Israeli, and Palestinian, rappers, have combined forces to put on joint music festivals. Many young Israelis I have meet have rejected both "Israeli" and "Palestinian" as identity labels for themselves, and many young Arabs are fans of Israeli pop stars. There is even an Israeli Rupaul type cross gender singer (who goes by the name "Dana International") who has a (somewhat secret) following among Arab young folks in neighboring countries.



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Would people assume I’m an Israel supporter/Zionist based on my music taste? I do have some affection for Israel, but I honestly don’t know enough about politics there.


Israeli, and Palestinian, rappers, have combined forces to put on joint music festivals. Many young Israelis I have meet have rejected both "Israeli" and "Palestinian" as identity labels for themselves, and many young Arabs are fans of Israeli pop stars. There is even an Israeli Rupaul type cross gender singer (who goes by the name "Dana International") who has a (somewhat secret) following among Arab young folks in neighboring countries.

I feel like I have an affection for Israel that I just shouldn’t have. I’m generally a liberal person, but it seems like having affection for Israel doesn’t go together with the rest of my politics.



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22 Mar 2018, 5:23 pm

Something interesting I’ve noticed is that sometimes I can predict the next word someone will sing. Even though I only know a few Hebrew words. I’m getting somewhat familiar with Hebrew like I wanted to.



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24 Mar 2018, 11:45 am

There are some great example of Israeli music I can link to you, about 95% of it is 70s to 90s. I don't listen to new stuff from this century cause it is not as good, the situation deteriorated quickly in the current decade. But it's a world wide phenomenon not just in Israel. Not sure what you would consider "Rock" tho. Some would say growling metal is rock, I wouldn't recognize a metal song in any language if I was ever presented with one.

Hebrew like German for instance do go well with rock... not sure why.

Hit me up if you want links to real quality music



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24 Mar 2018, 11:58 am

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There are some great example of Israeli music I can link to you, about 95% of it is 70s to 90s. I don't listen to new stuff from this century cause it is not as good, the situation deteriorated quickly in the current decade. But it's a world wide phenomenon not just in Israel. Not sure what you would consider "Rock" tho. Some would say growling metal is rock, I wouldn't recognize a metal song in any language if I was ever presented with one.

Hebrew like German for instance do go well with rock... not sure why.

Hit me up if you want links to real quality music

Most of the music I listen to from Israel is 70s-90s as well. I don’t like modern music from there either. But I still enjoy modern music from other countries.



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24 Mar 2018, 1:46 pm

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Something interesting I’ve noticed is that sometimes I can predict the next word someone will sing. Even though I only know a few Hebrew words. I’m getting somewhat familiar with Hebrew like I wanted to.


Sounds like its the language, more than the music, that you are resonating with. You like Israeli rock because you like the sound of the Hebrew language. Take a stab at learning Hebrew in earnest. See if you have an aptitude for it.

Maybe you should go into linguistics, and study Semitic languages, and become an expert in Hebrew and Arabic and Aramaic. And then either go to work for companies or govt. agencies involved in the Mideast. Or go into academia and study ancient dead semitic languages like Akkadian, and Assyrian, and translate cuniform texts.



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Something interesting I’ve noticed is that sometimes I can predict the next word someone will sing. Even though I only know a few Hebrew words. I’m getting somewhat familiar with Hebrew like I wanted to.


Sounds like its the language, more than the music, that you are resonating with. You like Israeli rock because you like the sound of the Hebrew language. Take a stab at learning Hebrew in earnest. See if you have an aptitude for it.

Maybe you should go into linguistics, and study Semitic languages, and become an expert in Hebrew and Arabic and Aramaic. And then either go to work for companies or govt. agencies involved in the Mideast. Or go into academia and study ancient dead semitic languages like Akkadian, and Assyrian, and translate cuniform texts.

Maybe it is the language. At least that’s the reason why I put effort into finding Israeli music to listen to. But I definitely have my likes and dislikes. I think Sacha Baron Cohen started this interest for me. I don’t really have much interest in other middle eastern languages.



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25 Mar 2018, 1:04 am

If it’s the language more than the music, how come I never really went crazy over Nordic rock? I was also obsessed with Nordic languages and culture.



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25 Mar 2018, 6:31 am

Maybe because you were already into Nordic languages before you ever heard Nordic rock, so it was already a thing in your mind as an interest. So you didn't need the music to introduce it to you.



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25 Mar 2018, 8:37 am

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Maybe because you were already into Nordic languages before you ever heard Nordic rock, so it was already a thing in your mind as an interest. So you didn't need the music to introduce it to you.

????