31 Oct 2024, 3:21 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Carbonhalo wrote:
Protopunk is late 60s
My mother was listening to disco just after I was born (61), but you probably wouldn't count french disco as such.
Not that I count protopunk as punk...the term is obviously coined afterwards.
My mother was listening to disco just after I was born (61), but you probably wouldn't count french disco as such.
Not that I count protopunk as punk...the term is obviously coined afterwards.
Alice Cooper and New York Dolls from the early 1970s have been described as protopunk.
Am I writing in Swahili or something?
Everyone seems to have ignored "you probably wouldn't count french disco as such"
In England, everything played in a disco was disco music.
I grant that everyone has a different interpretation of what constitutes a musical genre, but punk rock was defined (in 2 different countries) in the early 70s and it's precursors were SUBSEQUENTLY defined as protopunk (and I'd call Alice Cooper and New York Dolls true punk...fitting the timeline)
I will cede the point that punk is a reaction to boring music... And disco is equally dull as prog.
I never got an answer as to "who" codified disco, but it is clearly not early 60s English disco bunnies.
As an amusing side note..
The first Discothèque I ever went to was "Tiffs" in Edinburgh to see the Ruts in 81
The epitome of punk with style.
This makes punk = disco using my own definition.
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31 Oct 2024, 3:30 pm
Carbonhalo wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Carbonhalo wrote:
Protopunk is late 60s
My mother was listening to disco just after I was born (61), but you probably wouldn't count french disco as such.
Not that I count protopunk as punk...the term is obviously coined afterwards.
My mother was listening to disco just after I was born (61), but you probably wouldn't count french disco as such.
Not that I count protopunk as punk...the term is obviously coined afterwards.
Alice Cooper and New York Dolls from the early 1970s have been described as protopunk.
Am I writing in Swahili or something?
Everyone seems to have ignored "you probably wouldn't count french disco as such"
In England, everything played in a disco was disco music.
I grant that everyone has a different interpretation of what constitutes a musical genre, but punk rock was defined (in 2 different countries) in the early 70s and it's precursors were SUBSEQUENTLY defined as protopunk (and I'd call Alice Cooper and New York Dolls true punk...fitting the timeline)
I will cede the point that punk is a reaction to boring music... And disco is equally dull as prog.
I never got an answer as to "who" codified disco, but it is clearly not early 60s English disco bunnies.
As an amusing side note..
The first Discothèque I ever went to was "Tiffs" in Edinburgh to see the Ruts in 81
The epitome of punk with style.
This makes punk = disco using my own definition.
I think this is where we need to recognize that defining any music played in a discothèque as disco results in a useless definition for the word disco.
Whereas the standard definition is actually useful because it has identifiable traits that go beyond where it was played.
