Climactic eeriness?

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There's this song on NIN's Halo left CD I believe might be something like what you are talking about. Has synthesized power tools amongst other things in it, cause Reznor is weird like that, and more forbidding sounds that haunt you even after death itself. Too bad I don't know the name.. I think it's track 4, right before the "in this together" song.

Fragile was good, one of my friends had it and probably bumped it in his car often enough that I never even needed the cd. When it comes to industrial though, I've said it before, I'm a bit more partial to Skinny Puppy though (or at least a certain era of their stuff, late 80's to early 90s), Reznor's slick but the drive he has only goes so far for me. Ogre's lyrics on Last Rights though, every bit as unbelievable as the beats.

BTW, I'm understanding why this thread went left or right of the mark. Then energy I was trying to describe was too esoteric, too much of a me-ism so to speak. There may be bands with the sort of sounds and elements heightened that I'm specifically thinking of but I really don't think anyone else is really as dialed in on them specifically, or at least on WP who reads through these threads anyway.

naw, no-one understands me either.

I don't know.. I get like a weird synesthesia effect from listening to music, and sometimes I swear when I listen to headphones in public, people have to think I'm the biggest weirdo because they can definately see I'm off in la la land. BTW, that song was called "the wretchid."

do you mean when a song sort of breaks down, probably goes to a relative minor and adds a load of atmospheric sounds and shiz?

This again is probably not what you mean...but selfishly may get me some recommendations of similar stuff (yes, I am hideously old, very out of touch etc). I am a creaky ancient, so perhaps some of these things are now so old they count as retro.....

Sorry, haven't the time nor patience to find links (but you'll find most of this stuff on good ole u tube)

Depthcharge -Dead before Dawn (ignore the bad intro)
Renegade Soundwave- the Phantom /Thunder (in fact most of the 2nd Disc on the CD..DO NOT listen to Probably a Robbery unless you like mockney rap...)
Sabres of Paradise- Haunted Dancehall (yeah mainstream, but now forgotten by many)


Also (miserable dubby stuff continued)
Little Axe -Hard Grind (hard to find CD)
Andrew Weatherall -Watch the Ride
Jah Wobble with Natascha Atlas...(in fact, most Jah Wobble involved stuff, including Timezone)

And not at all related to dub, but certainly gloomy, electonic and overwhelming (for me anyway) Soulsavers with Mark Lanegan.(I think he stole the lyrics from my head...I felt trespassed on)

And I can't remember the artist, was on Soma records, a track called Desert Storm was quite moving (but, 90's, Megadog...my recall may be flawed )

Oh well, not much help but maybe out of pity I might get some pointers from the more public spirited of you on things that have happened since wax cylinders and victriolas were phased out

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(no point advising me of Death in Vegas, Unkle, Lo-Fidelity Allstars, nor Slam, I've not mentioned them cos I don't think they fitted the bill of the post)

I'm a big Radiohead fan but there's only one song I can think of that seems like what you describe, at least in my mind - climactic eeriness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAwGWptsOls&feature=related

Basically the whole second half of the song, after the 2 minute mark, is one big repetitive breakdown. Then the part from 3:40 to the end sounds like climactic eeriness to my mind. I wonder if this is the same thing you're thinking of.

For me the time signature that makes it eerie too though, you think it'll be 4/4 but then the last beat makes it 5/4 or 7/8 (not quite sure which).

No trouble - if you get music you get music, you could be 80 for all I care.



Two comments
1). Right off the top the intro sample, I don't know where its from but Skinny Puppy throws it down in 'Who's Laughing Now' on VIVISECTVI - first thing I thought of
2). The guy who has it posted - also someone who has impeckable taste in jungle as well as dubstep, I'd have to say I'd trust anything he, nino, or ubiquitan posts).

BTW, you should drop by the 'dubstep' thread further down the page (or on page 2 by now even), don't know your familiarity with it but its a return to the kinds of beats your into, though yes its gotten a lot darker and glitchier.



Even youtube it looks like - they need to post the original :/

I'll have to take a look at more of these as I have the chance.



Desert Storm - Desert Storm? Looks like its here.



I don't know if the brits are laughing, I'm a yank so this isn't common-place enough for it to date anyone's tastes. If anything I'm so used to people having no concept of the genre style your sharing that its quite refreshing, if anything I may even be able to turn you on to some newer evolutions of it while seeing from a lot of your selection where those sounds came from.



Right, but I'm still up for talking about techno, trance, etc. anytime so no worries - we'll get to it I'm sure .

The hardest thing about this thread, I'd have to know how your feeling it to say that it does or doesn't apply if you get my meaning. What I mean by climactic eeriness is when it maxes out, seems to go almost beyond what you can imagine as human emotion - without getting incoherent. When I find stuff like this I tend to err for the deeper edge.

So I guess there's no wrong answer, and even if you though I meant gurning/happy climactic with eerie you can still lie and say you knew what I meant .

It would be nice if you could post an example for downloading or briefly put it on youtube. Otherwise there's no way to know. All I know is that I do have a positive emotional experience with negative or weird moods in music and a lot of happy music turns me off.

I think it's true that different people experience different emotions in relation to the same music. For example some of the stuff other people posted on my "sad music" thread doesn’t sound musically sad at all to me - maybe the lyrics but not the music.

I guess I'm still interested in this thread because what you describe emotionally sounds like something I'd enjoy. I don't really quite know anything that does that for me though. Radiohead sometimes gets kind of eerie but I can definitely imagine even eerier music, just can't quite dig it out of my subconscious.

Yeah, I'm the same way - particularly off of the deeper/spacier side of dark, has very transcendental kinds of aspects. Overall though, I'm thinking it was the word 'climactic' that had this thread fall apart; too many meanings completely arbitrary to one another. Also though, I won't deny that UNKLE's got some creepy stuff - Massive Attack's also great in my books.

Anyway yes, I have youtube available tracks that I can recommend - still think a lot of these have a trace of it but don't go there all the way themselves even; its more a direction of sound rather than something fully attainable (though in some of my own work currently - I'm trying):

Jonny L - Piper (skip the music video version, sound quality is kack)
Matrix - Convoy
J Majik - Arabian Nights
Ed Rush - Raven
Source Direct - Stonekiller
Ed Rush, Optical & Fierce - Alien Girl

This one's almost too minimal to qualify for the melodic aesthetic but the video's pure filth:
Mirage - Feel My Dreams

I like... but still confused unfortunately. I’m not quite sure what the common quality is. The different tracks seem to have different aesthetic vibes / emotions for me.

I really like some of the stuff going on after the 3 minute mark on the Prototype track (Matrix - Convoy). It’s the dissonance created by the constantly changing / flailing drum rhythms that draws me in though, more so than any melodic effects. This track seems very sublime / spacey to me, almost relaxing.

I like the first Ed Rush track too but it’s got a different feeling. A very brutish / mean unsympathetic kind of darkness. He comes up with the most pummeling sounds. I guess it appeals to the masochist part of me. Always dig the slurring / falling out of tune effects too.

No idea what to say, not saying its obvious but rather because all of those that I posted are still half-fast examples at best. I don't really think there is a way to explain it. Probably best that I just cross my fingers and hope no one else either replies to this or excavates it from the archives again, I started this thread August of last year and had no clue that I'd ever see it again.

Sorry, didn't mean to cause frustration. Someone else must have dug this up and I hadn't seen it before. Just found it interesting - something I could possibly relate to. Didn't even realize how old it was.

I think we have somewhat similar taste in mood but aren't keyed in to the exact same things. It's probably be a rare coincidence for two people to react in the exactly the same way to a piece of music. There are certain things in music that really reach into me and grab me too but I'd probably have just as much frustration trying to get other people to see the exact same things.

Something else also, to be fair - this is what I'd posted on the first page of the thread; probably the best examples that I have audio of and the three that at least have something that you'd likely find contiguous.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wk3kgq

These are cuts of:

example 1: Source Direct - Computer State
example 2: Wendigo (something I did a long time ago)
example 3: Sonar by Trace