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BrutalMetalDood
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13 Dec 2014, 6:57 pm

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I say people should like what they like...I personally do not see any kind of (insert whatever)core as metal, not saying it is bad music though.

Not trying to start an argument or anything, but deathcore is technically metal. Deathcore is death metal+metalcore...or essentially just death metal with breakdowns and blast beats. :3

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14 Dec 2014, 1:05 am

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I love metal music. Not the usual stuff though. I'm more into the stuff that runs slow and heavy. Neurosis and early Boris stuff for me. Oh, and Melvins - Lysol.

You would like Sunn O))) and Eyehategod then.

I love Sunn O))) and Eyehategod. I especially like the record they did with Boris. That was a dream team. And speaking of dream teams, Shrinebuilder. Check them out!

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14 Dec 2014, 1:15 am

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Fair enough; I can see how whatever core you have going on isn't metal to some. But then again; I also grew up in a local music scene with nothing but hardcore and punk bands. The band I was in, a death metal band, actually was something refreshing, who would've thought, lol.

Oh, I'm not blasting CoF for their weird status of "black metal" but I found their newer stuff a bit boring and overproduced. To this day I still think Cruelty and the beast is one of the better, if not best album. Despite it has sh***y production.

I'm not even touching the "true black metal" debate here, lol. I listen to a handful of supposed black metal bands, both old and new ones, and surely not all of them are from the artic north (aka Norway). I'm quite digging Abigail Williams. At least their older stuff before they went on hiatus.

Lol as for the true black metal debate....never get why some people waste their time arguing over what band is more black metal rather than just listening to and enjoying the damn music. But yeah I probably do prefer Cradle of Filths older stuff....certianly do not dislike the newer stuff though, also they are getting old/aging, Dani Filth does not quite have the same vocal abilities anymore so seemed like in their most recent album they where sort of trying to compensate for that and adjusted the music style some, he certainly was not doing as much of the more high pitched screetches more lower pitched sort of vocals.

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14 Dec 2014, 1:25 am

BrutalMetalDood wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

I say people should like what they like...I personally do not see any kind of (insert whatever)core as metal, not saying it is bad music though.

Not trying to start an argument or anything, but deathcore is technically metal. Deathcore is death metal+metalcore...or essentially just death metal with breakdowns and blast beats. :3

I don't know deathcore certianly has a very heavy death metal influence, just not so sure it is metal at its core, then again have not listened much to it what I have heard of it I don't care much for but yet I do like death metal, kinda picky about death metal though since a lot is kinda generic/redundant at least to me.

But like if one was to dismantle death core, would metal be the base of which everything else was built upon? for instance take thrash metal it was an offset of heavy metal influenced by the more fast paced/agressive punk music but if you stripped away the punk influence you'd be left with heavy metal. Not sure its the case with deathcore...I thought of it more as death metal influenced metal core. But yeah I like overgeneralizing this stuff to death in my mind just because music is one of my main intrests..I don't expect everyone to agree with my perspective or even put as much thought as I do into these matters. Regardless it still has significant elements of death metal within it.

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14 Dec 2014, 3:01 pm

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I don't really like most country music, but I enjoy Johhny Cash and from what i understand he was somewhat country, there is also a couple sub-genres of punk that sort of incorporate his style or at least it sounds like they do and I really like that. I guess its just the mainstream stuff that I've heard on the radio or T.V that I don't really like but perhaps that does not represent the full spectrum.

It's funny you mention that, because I like Johnny Cash as well, despite not being a country fan. Now, I don't go out of my way to listen to him, but whenever one of his songs comes on the radio I enjoy it. I personally think that he was a million times cooler than Elvis Presley, and that he should have taken the place in popular culture that Elvis occupies.

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14 Dec 2014, 3:26 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

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I will go out of my way to listen to Johhny Cash, if I feel like it....but yeah never did care for Elvis, and from what I understand a lot of stuff wasn't really anything he came up with more remakes of already existing music, at least according to a music history course I took, so not even very original...certainly not the king of anything except plagerism maybe, I hope there are no avid fans of him on here, if so I am liable to have e-tomatoes and other things thrown at me. lol

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14 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm

^Wasn't Elvis mainly a cover artist? Not a lot of his popular songs were actually written by him.

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14 Dec 2014, 4:36 pm

Well the real king of rock'n'roll is Little Richard, not Elvis. Lemmy says so! (and I agree)
But I still like Elvis too. Even if he got the "king" title partly by virtue of being whiter and more clearly heterosexual than Little Richard, in my book that says something about the mores back then but not really about Elvis. If he had failed to give credit where credit is due, for cover versions etc, that would be a different story but I'm not aware of anything like that.

Can't say I know Johnny Cash very well, but it seems to me like he's in a different category altogether - what I call "poets". Some others I put in this category are Leonard Cohen, Tom Waits, Nick Cave.

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22 Dec 2014, 4:03 pm

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mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

CaptanPolarBear wrote:

Metal music makes Bear happy

Here are my favorite bands in the Genere:

1. Metallica
2. Sabaton
3. Nightwish
4. Rammstein
5. Disturbed

I could listen to a playlist with all their songs on it, and never get board.

I like your tastes in metal.

Do you listen to Children of Bodom?

They're awesome depending on my mood. Given the bands he listed, he probably doesn't stray too far into harsher vocals in metal. Which, is all perfectly okay. It took me.. 5 years of iron maiden until I started listening to harsher vocals.

Thats the truth. The only real band I like with "Harsh" vocals would be Amon Amaranth.

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22 Dec 2014, 9:30 pm

Amon Amarth is pretty good from what I've heard of them. Lately I've been getting into Nightwish.

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29 Dec 2014, 10:09 am

Metal doesn't have my main attention anymore, but I would deny my past if I wouldn't acknowledge it as a part of my musical journey.

I used to be a big fan of Mountain/West, Bruce & Laing. Nowadays I like Spiritual Beggars and some speed metal (Evile, Gama Bomb, Municipal Waste). Much more into punk rock/hardcore punk ... oldschool preferably

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31 Dec 2014, 3:01 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

^Wasn't Elvis mainly a cover artist? Not a lot of his popular songs were actually written by him.

That's how the music industry primarily worked prior to the 1960s, and pretty much still works in regard to the most popular major label artists today. In the simplest terms, there were no "bands", per se: just the singer and the people who were hired by the label to write the songs and play the instruments on the recordings. It was very rare for a performer to write their own material (I mean, of all the songs Frank Sinatra ever sang, he only co-wrote about three). Rock and roll (specifically Buddy Holly & the Crickets) pretty much broke the ground that a band could be its own self-contained unit who wrote their own songs, and after The Beatles that became the absolute norm.

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01 Jan 2015, 1:47 am

I have been into metal and a few other genres over my lifetime, metal is what I gravitate to when I am depressed or in need of some confidence. I'm not really into death metal or 80s metal, I am more on the emo-ish side actually. I mostly only listen to local metal bands and attend their shows quite frequently the time so I don't know many of the bands being discussed here. What I detest about the genre though is the stupid moshing, why do people feel the need to act like wild animals and hurt others at these shows who just want stand and listen? Total disrespect!! !

For the genre to grow and thrive I think we need to do a better job of taking care of the few venues that will allow these concerts and taking better care of ourselves since a lawsuit from a hurt kids parent will likely go pretty far to ending the all important all ages shows. I've seen ambulances called to small shows to carry away little kids. Also Metal could seriously benefit from a rebranding. Aside from some satanic metal bands need to drop the satanic and anarchy symbolism and imagery(eg. the devil horns), because today most metal bands lyric wise have nothing to do with that stuff anymore yet continue to face resistance from its legacy. Metal music festivals are branded is promoting Satanism and anarchy on the strength of palm muted, high gain guitar sounds, unfortunately.

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01 Jan 2015, 3:56 am

rapidroy wrote:

Aside from the legal implications, I don't see what the problem is with moshing, so long as all the participants
involved agree to it. I don't think unwilling people should be dragged into mosh pits.

I think the whole "Satanic" angle is really more of a black metal thing nowadays, and a lot of bands that do utilize Satanic imagery do so more for shock value and aesthetics than for actually promoting Satanism. Like it or not, some of the very earliest heavy metal songs dealt with this type of imagery, albeit not from a perspective that necessarily promoted it. It's a bit too engrained in some parts of the metal culture for it to truly go away, though there are plenty of good bands that don't make use of Satanic imagery at all, or very minimal use. As far as anarchism, even though it sort of makes sense that it would go with metal, I really think anarchist imagery is more of a "punk" thing.

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01 Jan 2015, 4:57 am

I like a wide variety of music. Heavy metal is near, but not quite at, the bottom of the list.

The very bottom of the list would be rap and anything similar. I call that ghetto music. If someone wants to listen to ghetto music, then they should move to the ghetto.

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01 Jan 2015, 5:14 am

rapidroy wrote:

I disagree about metal needing to 'change its image' if people don't like it they don't have to listen to it... if band likes having a satanic theme they certainly do not need to drop it, if people don't want to listen to metal with that theme they don't have to, but bands with it shouldn't change just because some people don't like it. And the devil horns aren't going away I am quite certain, and haven't heard many metal bands with lyrics about anarchy per say though I bet it exists.

As for moshing while even in a pit where no one is being an a** and deliberate trying to harm anyone it is possible to be injured(enter at your own risk)....doubt it will entirely go away, one does not have to go in the mosh pit however...and little kids should be no where near it, though by little kids what do you mean like under 12 I have yet to go to a metal show where the people moshing try and harm those who don't want to take part...at least as a whole last time I was at a show someone tried that they themselves got somewhat literally thrown out of the pit.

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